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Attributes | |
ACN | 356680 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pmd |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zla |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 228 flight time total : 19600 flight time type : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 356680 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending for landing on ziggy 3 STAR, thought we had been cleared to 11000 ft. I read back 'cleared to 11000 ft' and told first officer I was setting 11000 ft in altitude selector and automatic flight director system panel. First officer concurred, and controller did not correct me when I read back 'cleared to 11000 ft.' at approximately 12000 ft, controller called and said climb to 13000 ft. We started climb to 13000 ft. Shortly thereafter, controller cleared us to 11000 ft and handed us off to ont (socal) approach control. (11000 ft was not in ZLA airspace.) main contributing distraction factor: jump seat rider who was a friend and classmate of the first officer. This was a case of neither pilot hearing the altitude clearance correctly. And the controller did not hear the incorrect readback. Or, if the controller did only clear us to 13000 ft, and if I did read back '13000 ft,' my brain did transpose it to 11000 ft? Other factors: day 3 of a 3 day trip. This was a pm trip and I normally fly am trips.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT ON DSCNT.
Narrative: DSNDING FOR LNDG ON ZIGGY 3 STAR, THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 11000 FT. I READ BACK 'CLRED TO 11000 FT' AND TOLD FO I WAS SETTING 11000 FT IN ALT SELECTOR AND AUTO FLT DIRECTOR SYS PANEL. FO CONCURRED, AND CTLR DID NOT CORRECT ME WHEN I READ BACK 'CLRED TO 11000 FT.' AT APPROX 12000 FT, CTLR CALLED AND SAID CLB TO 13000 FT. WE STARTED CLB TO 13000 FT. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, CTLR CLRED US TO 11000 FT AND HANDED US OFF TO ONT (SOCAL) APCH CTL. (11000 FT WAS NOT IN ZLA AIRSPACE.) MAIN CONTRIBUTING DISTR FACTOR: JUMP SEAT RIDER WHO WAS A FRIEND AND CLASSMATE OF THE FO. THIS WAS A CASE OF NEITHER PLT HEARING THE ALT CLRNC CORRECTLY. AND THE CTLR DID NOT HEAR THE INCORRECT READBACK. OR, IF THE CTLR DID ONLY CLR US TO 13000 FT, AND IF I DID READ BACK '13000 FT,' MY BRAIN DID TRANSPOSE IT TO 11000 FT? OTHER FACTORS: DAY 3 OF A 3 DAY TRIP. THIS WAS A PM TRIP AND I NORMALLY FLY AM TRIPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.