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Attributes | |
ACN | 434357 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : hto.vortac |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10400 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v139.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 434357 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 435270 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned airspace |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The first officer and I both thought we had been cleared to descend to 10000 ft. When ATC asked us if we were going to stop at 11000 ft, we were at 10400 ft. When he asked this, we immediately climbed back to 11000 ft and nothing more was said. We both feel the initial clearance was to 10000 ft. I don't know what to do different. We try to read back any altitude changes by the book, but either us or the controller made a mistake.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DHC8 OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT ON DSCNT DUE TO MISUNDERSTANDING CLRNC.
Narrative: THE FO AND I BOTH THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO DSND TO 10000 FT. WHEN ATC ASKED US IF WE WERE GOING TO STOP AT 11000 FT, WE WERE AT 10400 FT. WHEN HE ASKED THIS, WE IMMEDIATELY CLBED BACK TO 11000 FT AND NOTHING MORE WAS SAID. WE BOTH FEEL THE INITIAL CLRNC WAS TO 10000 FT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO DIFFERENT. WE TRY TO READ BACK ANY ALT CHANGES BY THE BOOK, BUT EITHER US OR THE CTLR MADE A MISTAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.