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Attributes | |
ACN | 356838 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mco |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 62 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 179 flight time total : 12400 flight time type : 2274 |
ASRS Report | 356838 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : rejected takeoff none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During a rolling takeoff, aircraft control was given to me after the aircraft was aligned with the runway centerline and the engines spooled up to approximately 60-65%. I smoothly advanced all throttles until the engines stabilized at 80%. I then started to slowly advance all throttles to the reduced power takeoff setting. As I did this, the aircraft started to drift to the left and I applied full right rudder correction with no resulting response. The rudder pedals should have some input to the nosewheel steering. I made some comment about this to the captain and he was already in the process of aborting the takeoff. After the throttles were retarded to idle and the thrust reversers deployed, the aircraft veered to the right and went off the runway at about 2200 ft from the takeoff end. The tail was still a few ft over the runway after the aircraft was stopped. Emergency equipment was requested and the engines shut down. There were no fires or any further danger. The aircraft was tail heavy. Although it was within the aft center of gravity limit and the power was smoothly applied, I think the nose strut extended and the ground shift went into the flight shift mode. This would remove rudder pedal commands to the nose steering and allow the nose gear to turn in any direction. The only thing I can think of to prevent a recurrence of this situation is to not load the aircraft so close to the aft center of gravity limit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC8-62 FREIGHTER MAKING A ROLLING TKOF, FO, PF, UNABLE TO MAINTAIN DIRECTIONAL CTL. CAPT BEGAN TO ABORT THE TKOF WITH THE ACFT ENDING OFF THE EDGE OF THE RWY WITH TAIL STILL ON THE RWY. FO SUSPECTS AFT CTR OF GRAVITY LIMITS PREVENTED THE NOSEWHEEL FROM BEING EFFECTIVE.
Narrative: DURING A ROLLING TKOF, ACFT CTL WAS GIVEN TO ME AFTER THE ACFT WAS ALIGNED WITH THE RWY CTRLINE AND THE ENGS SPOOLED UP TO APPROX 60-65%. I SMOOTHLY ADVANCED ALL THROTTLES UNTIL THE ENGS STABILIZED AT 80%. I THEN STARTED TO SLOWLY ADVANCE ALL THROTTLES TO THE REDUCED PWR TKOF SETTING. AS I DID THIS, THE ACFT STARTED TO DRIFT TO THE L AND I APPLIED FULL R RUDDER CORRECTION WITH NO RESULTING RESPONSE. THE RUDDER PEDALS SHOULD HAVE SOME INPUT TO THE NOSEWHEEL STEERING. I MADE SOME COMMENT ABOUT THIS TO THE CAPT AND HE WAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF ABORTING THE TKOF. AFTER THE THROTTLES WERE RETARDED TO IDLE AND THE THRUST REVERSERS DEPLOYED, THE ACFT VEERED TO THE R AND WENT OFF THE RWY AT ABOUT 2200 FT FROM THE TKOF END. THE TAIL WAS STILL A FEW FT OVER THE RWY AFTER THE ACFT WAS STOPPED. EMER EQUIP WAS REQUESTED AND THE ENGS SHUT DOWN. THERE WERE NO FIRES OR ANY FURTHER DANGER. THE ACFT WAS TAIL HVY. ALTHOUGH IT WAS WITHIN THE AFT CTR OF GRAVITY LIMIT AND THE PWR WAS SMOOTHLY APPLIED, I THINK THE NOSE STRUT EXTENDED AND THE GND SHIFT WENT INTO THE FLT SHIFT MODE. THIS WOULD REMOVE RUDDER PEDAL COMMANDS TO THE NOSE STEERING AND ALLOW THE NOSE GEAR TO TURN IN ANY DIRECTION. THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF TO PREVENT A RECURRENCE OF THIS SIT IS TO NOT LOAD THE ACFT SO CLOSE TO THE AFT CTR OF GRAVITY LIMIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.