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BE535 aircraft. Filed routing was changed by center and reporter pilot noted that the assigned altitude of 7000 ft was inadequate for the entire routing since there was a 10000 ft MEA. ATC assured pilot that he could continue at 7000 ft, but then after landing was instructed to contact center.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 357590 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199612 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : orl |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : avp |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Twin Bonanza 50 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute airway : v159 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 42 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 357590 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Previous clearance was V159 to orl. V159 departs ocf to orl via ocf 129 degree and orl 309 degree radials, with an MEA of 2000 ft. ZJX issued new clearance to orl via 'direct ocf, leese eight arrival, maintain 7000 ft.' ground track from ocf is the same (ocf 129 degree radial), but this arrival has a 10000 ft segment until 30 mi from orl (as opposed to 2000 ft MEA on V159). I refused the clearance as unsuitable regarding altitude for the aircraft until, after discussion, the controller agreed to go on record agreeing that I could disregard the 10000 ft charted altitude. I later received a request to telephone ZJX immediately on landing. Suggestion: IFR arrs to orl from the northwest should be cleared via V159 instead of leese eight if aircraft type is not suited for 10000 ft in close proximity to the airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BE535 ACFT. FILED ROUTING WAS CHANGED BY CTR AND RPTR PLT NOTED THAT THE ASSIGNED ALT OF 7000 FT WAS INADEQUATE FOR THE ENTIRE ROUTING SINCE THERE WAS A 10000 FT MEA. ATC ASSURED PLT THAT HE COULD CONTINUE AT 7000 FT, BUT THEN AFTER LNDG WAS INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT CTR.
Narrative: PREVIOUS CLRNC WAS V159 TO ORL. V159 DEPARTS OCF TO ORL VIA OCF 129 DEG AND ORL 309 DEG RADIALS, WITH AN MEA OF 2000 FT. ZJX ISSUED NEW CLRNC TO ORL VIA 'DIRECT OCF, LEESE EIGHT ARR, MAINTAIN 7000 FT.' GND TRACK FROM OCF IS THE SAME (OCF 129 DEG RADIAL), BUT THIS ARR HAS A 10000 FT SEGMENT UNTIL 30 MI FROM ORL (AS OPPOSED TO 2000 FT MEA ON V159). I REFUSED THE CLRNC AS UNSUITABLE REGARDING ALT FOR THE ACFT UNTIL, AFTER DISCUSSION, THE CTLR AGREED TO GO ON RECORD AGREEING THAT I COULD DISREGARD THE 10000 FT CHARTED ALT. I LATER RECEIVED A REQUEST TO TELEPHONE ZJX IMMEDIATELY ON LNDG. SUGGESTION: IFR ARRS TO ORL FROM THE NW SHOULD BE CLRED VIA V159 INSTEAD OF LEESE EIGHT IF ACFT TYPE IS NOT SUITED FOR 10000 FT IN CLOSE PROX TO THE ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.