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Attributes | |
ACN | 357626 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pln |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 68 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 590 |
ASRS Report | 357626 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Approaching rondo intersection (IAF for pln ILS runway 32 approach) at 5000 ft MSL using LORAN as pln VOR OTS. Our aircraft picking up light rime ice so asked ZMP for lower (controller quite busy). He said the ILS runway 32 approach would not be legal with the VOR out, but to report established on the localizer. After rondo we descended to 2500 ft, then told controller we were on the localizer and VFR so will cancel IFR. He said squawk 1200 and goodnight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BE55 ACFT PREPARING FOR ILS APCH WITH VOR OUT ENCOUNTERED ICING AND REQUESTED LOWER ALT FROM CTR. CTR CTLR TOLD RPTR THAT THE ILS APCH WAS NOT LEGAL BECAUSE THE VOR WAS OUT. THEN ATC TOLD RPTR TO RPT ESTABLISHED ON LOC. RPTR CANCELED IFR WHEN BECOMING VMC ON ILS.
Narrative: APCHING RONDO INTXN (IAF FOR PLN ILS RWY 32 APCH) AT 5000 FT MSL USING LORAN AS PLN VOR OTS. OUR ACFT PICKING UP LIGHT RIME ICE SO ASKED ZMP FOR LOWER (CTLR QUITE BUSY). HE SAID THE ILS RWY 32 APCH WOULD NOT BE LEGAL WITH THE VOR OUT, BUT TO RPT ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC. AFTER RONDO WE DSNDED TO 2500 FT, THEN TOLD CTLR WE WERE ON THE LOC AND VFR SO WILL CANCEL IFR. HE SAID SQUAWK 1200 AND GOODNIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.