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Attributes | |
ACN | 357671 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ipvd airport : pvd |
State Reference | RI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pvd |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : ipvd |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 357671 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Flying the ILS 5 at pvd, I intercepted and tracked localizer from about 30 NM out. Passing rench intersection on the approach, completed confign and the before landing checklist. The copilot was flying with the autoplt engaged. As I completed the checklist, I noticed full scale right deflection on both CDI's. Almost simultaneously, both flight directors and the autoplt disengaged. With no runway in sight, we went around. On downwind, I asked the controller if they had any signal alarms. He stated they had not. We landed the second time without incident. I was ready to chalk this up as an unexplainable fluke until a chance meeting the next day. At our layover hotel, I had a chat with an air carrier B727 captain. They came in about 7 1/2 hours after us on the same approach, ILS 5 pvd. He said the copilot was tracking in on the localizer. At about 8-9 mi out, the controller queried them suggesting they were off course. Though the CDI needle was centered at the time of the call, just a few moments later, it indicated full right deflection. They, too, went around. They flew a radar pattern and landed without incident. The similarity of events leads us to believe there may be a signal related problem in the vicinity of rench intersection. A phone discussion with a pvd tower supervisor indicated his technicians would look into the matter. In the meantime, extra care will be exercised on the ILS 5 pvd. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter has talked to his air carrier safety office which has contacted the pvd FAA operations people. Pvd could find no problem with their newly installed MK20 ILS system on runway 5. Pvd has passed this information on to the regional FAA facilities people. No feedback has come to the reporter on this yet. His air carrier has put out a 'company NOTAM' warning crews that fly into pvd to be alert to this problem. Had the reporter not accidentally met the air carrier B captain in the hotel lobby, he probably would have dismissed his full scale deflection at the rench intersection OM as 'one of those things.' pvd ATCT indicated that there was no vehicle traffic near the localizer transmitter during the reporter's approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B737 PLT RPTS THAT BOTH HE AND A B727 CREW HAD PROBS WITH THE PVD ILS. BOTH ACFT HAD BEEN TRACKING THE LOC IN IMC AND SUDDENLY GOT A FULL SCALE OFF COURSE INDICATION NEAR THE 'RENCH' OM. EVASIVE ACTION GAR.
Narrative: FLYING THE ILS 5 AT PVD, I INTERCEPTED AND TRACKED LOC FROM ABOUT 30 NM OUT. PASSING RENCH INTXN ON THE APCH, COMPLETED CONFIGN AND THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. THE COPLT WAS FLYING WITH THE AUTOPLT ENGAGED. AS I COMPLETED THE CHKLIST, I NOTICED FULL SCALE R DEFLECTION ON BOTH CDI'S. ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY, BOTH FLT DIRECTORS AND THE AUTOPLT DISENGAGED. WITH NO RWY IN SIGHT, WE WENT AROUND. ON DOWNWIND, I ASKED THE CTLR IF THEY HAD ANY SIGNAL ALARMS. HE STATED THEY HAD NOT. WE LANDED THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT INCIDENT. I WAS READY TO CHALK THIS UP AS AN UNEXPLAINABLE FLUKE UNTIL A CHANCE MEETING THE NEXT DAY. AT OUR LAYOVER HOTEL, I HAD A CHAT WITH AN ACR B727 CAPT. THEY CAME IN ABOUT 7 1/2 HRS AFTER US ON THE SAME APCH, ILS 5 PVD. HE SAID THE COPLT WAS TRACKING IN ON THE LOC. AT ABOUT 8-9 MI OUT, THE CTLR QUERIED THEM SUGGESTING THEY WERE OFF COURSE. THOUGH THE CDI NEEDLE WAS CTRED AT THE TIME OF THE CALL, JUST A FEW MOMENTS LATER, IT INDICATED FULL R DEFLECTION. THEY, TOO, WENT AROUND. THEY FLEW A RADAR PATTERN AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. THE SIMILARITY OF EVENTS LEADS US TO BELIEVE THERE MAY BE A SIGNAL RELATED PROB IN THE VICINITY OF RENCH INTXN. A PHONE DISCUSSION WITH A PVD TWR SUPVR INDICATED HIS TECHNICIANS WOULD LOOK INTO THE MATTER. IN THE MEANTIME, EXTRA CARE WILL BE EXERCISED ON THE ILS 5 PVD. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR HAS TALKED TO HIS ACR SAFETY OFFICE WHICH HAS CONTACTED THE PVD FAA OPS PEOPLE. PVD COULD FIND NO PROB WITH THEIR NEWLY INSTALLED MK20 ILS SYS ON RWY 5. PVD HAS PASSED THIS INFO ON TO THE REGIONAL FAA FACILITIES PEOPLE. NO FEEDBACK HAS COME TO THE RPTR ON THIS YET. HIS ACR HAS PUT OUT A 'COMPANY NOTAM' WARNING CREWS THAT FLY INTO PVD TO BE ALERT TO THIS PROB. HAD THE RPTR NOT ACCIDENTALLY MET THE ACR B CAPT IN THE HOTEL LOBBY, HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE DISMISSED HIS FULL SCALE DEFLECTION AT THE RENCH INTXN OM AS 'ONE OF THOSE THINGS.' PVD ATCT INDICATED THAT THERE WAS NO VEHICLE TFC NEAR THE LOC XMITTER DURING THE RPTR'S APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.