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Attributes | |
ACN | 358000 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : syr |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2100 msl bound upper : 2100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : syr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 7290 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 358000 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We were descending from intermediate altitude to leveloff at 2100 ft and turning for final vector to intercept localizer runway 10 at syr. Just prior to leveloff, the GPWS terrain warning was activated. Crew took immediate corrective action and initiated a climb. (No other aircraft were noted on our operational TCASII in the vicinity. Approach hadn't informed us of any aircraft to be concerned with.) notified approach that we were climbing. Warning ended at about 2500-2600 ft. Controller didn't apparently understand what was going on, so we spelled it out to him that we had a GPWS alert and we had to climb. Controller wanted us to call his supervisor. I called and talked to a mr X. He said that he had to fill out a report on the incident so it could be prevented in the future, because he was concerned about conflicting traffic. He thought that there might have been something wrong with our GPWS. I explained to him that I was new to the airplane but was familiar with GPWS operations, but never had anything like this. I felt that the warning could have been triggered by a 900 ft antenna or our rate of descent. System was operations checked normal prior to takeoff and no abnormal indications noted during our flight or any previous write- ups. I can't think of anything that we could have done differently. If there was close traffic, approach (usually) would have informed us. We were in semi VFR conditions and had good in-flight visibility. No TCASII conflict was observed either. I am not going to fly into terra firma while I am trying to troubleshoot the GPWS warning so not to upset a controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GPWS ALERT DURING A NIGHT OP SENDS AN SF340 INTO A CLB. ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION. PIC ASKED TO CALL SUPVR WHEN APCH CTLR NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE PROB WAS.
Narrative: WE WERE DSNDING FROM INTERMEDIATE ALT TO LEVELOFF AT 2100 FT AND TURNING FOR FINAL VECTOR TO INTERCEPT LOC RWY 10 AT SYR. JUST PRIOR TO LEVELOFF, THE GPWS TERRAIN WARNING WAS ACTIVATED. CREW TOOK IMMEDIATE CORRECTIVE ACTION AND INITIATED A CLB. (NO OTHER ACFT WERE NOTED ON OUR OPERATIONAL TCASII IN THE VICINITY. APCH HADN'T INFORMED US OF ANY ACFT TO BE CONCERNED WITH.) NOTIFIED APCH THAT WE WERE CLBING. WARNING ENDED AT ABOUT 2500-2600 FT. CTLR DIDN'T APPARENTLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON, SO WE SPELLED IT OUT TO HIM THAT WE HAD A GPWS ALERT AND WE HAD TO CLB. CTLR WANTED US TO CALL HIS SUPVR. I CALLED AND TALKED TO A MR X. HE SAID THAT HE HAD TO FILL OUT A RPT ON THE INCIDENT SO IT COULD BE PREVENTED IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT CONFLICTING TFC. HE THOUGHT THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WRONG WITH OUR GPWS. I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT I WAS NEW TO THE AIRPLANE BUT WAS FAMILIAR WITH GPWS OPS, BUT NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS. I FELT THAT THE WARNING COULD HAVE BEEN TRIGGERED BY A 900 FT ANTENNA OR OUR RATE OF DSCNT. SYS WAS OPS CHKED NORMAL PRIOR TO TKOF AND NO ABNORMAL INDICATIONS NOTED DURING OUR FLT OR ANY PREVIOUS WRITE- UPS. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. IF THERE WAS CLOSE TFC, APCH (USUALLY) WOULD HAVE INFORMED US. WE WERE IN SEMI VFR CONDITIONS AND HAD GOOD INFLT VISIBILITY. NO TCASII CONFLICT WAS OBSERVED EITHER. I AM NOT GOING TO FLY INTO TERRA FIRMA WHILE I AM TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT THE GPWS WARNING SO NOT TO UPSET A CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.