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Attributes | |
ACN | 358842 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 358842 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 177 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 358394 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was flying leg. I advanced throttles and the captain saw that there was no 'engine #2 fail arm' light. The captain called it out and he began to reduce the throttles. As he started to bring the throttles aft, I saw that the light illuminated and stated so. The captain elected to resume the takeoff roll. I agree with his decision to continue takeoff due to the margin of safety. We were still at taxi speed. We had not passed E12 which is a certified intersection takeoff point and the power had not been reduced past 80%. However, the most conservative approach would have been to discontinue the takeoff roll. Also, testing this system during taxi out might have avoided the situation altogether.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AS PWR WAS ADVANCED FOR TKOF, L1011 'ENG #2 FAIL ARM' LIGHT FAILED TO ILLUMINATE. AS PWR WAS BEING REDUCED FOR ABORT, LIGHT CAME ON. PWR WAS RESTORED AND TKOF CONTINUED. A TKOF POINT HAD NOT BEEN PASSED AT THAT TIME, SO SUFFICIENT RWY REMAINED.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING LEG. I ADVANCED THROTTLES AND THE CAPT SAW THAT THERE WAS NO 'ENG #2 FAIL ARM' LIGHT. THE CAPT CALLED IT OUT AND HE BEGAN TO REDUCE THE THROTTLES. AS HE STARTED TO BRING THE THROTTLES AFT, I SAW THAT THE LIGHT ILLUMINATED AND STATED SO. THE CAPT ELECTED TO RESUME THE TKOF ROLL. I AGREE WITH HIS DECISION TO CONTINUE TKOF DUE TO THE MARGIN OF SAFETY. WE WERE STILL AT TAXI SPD. WE HAD NOT PASSED E12 WHICH IS A CERTIFIED INTXN TKOF POINT AND THE PWR HAD NOT BEEN REDUCED PAST 80%. HOWEVER, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE APCH WOULD HAVE BEEN TO DISCONTINUE THE TKOF ROLL. ALSO, TESTING THIS SYS DURING TAXI OUT MIGHT HAVE AVOIDED THE SIT ALTOGETHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.