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Attributes | |
ACN | 359287 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9600 msl bound upper : 9600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 8900 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 359287 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
Cleared by approach to descend to 7000 ft. At about 13 DME, ATC called company L1011 traffic at 1 O'clock, 4 mi. We had the traffic visually and on TCASII and acknowledged visual contact to ATC. Then received a TCASII TA alert on the L1011. At 11 DME passing 9700 ft, we were told by approach that we were only cleared to 10000 ft. At the same time, received a TCASII RA to 'climb, climb.' the PF (captain) immediately stopped descent and climbed to 10000 ft. We checked our altitude barometric selector and it was set at 7000 ft and informed approach that we had been cleared to 7000 ft. Approach said that was for another aircraft. Our descent was stopped at 9600 ft (600 ft above L1011) before climbing and we passed about 1/2 - 1 mi behind the L1011 while keeping him in sight the entire time. After landing the captain called the approach control supervisor on the phone and the supervisor acknowledged that the tapes confirmed we had in fact been cleared to 7000 ft, not 10000 ft, and it was their error. Luckily we were VMC and not in IMC. I read back all altitude clrncs and always used our full call sign, ie, 'air carrier X cleared to 7000 ft.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT LTSS WHEN ACR B727 DSNDS TOO CLOSE TO AN L1011 MAINTAINING 9000 FT.
Narrative: CLRED BY APCH TO DSND TO 7000 FT. AT ABOUT 13 DME, ATC CALLED COMPANY L1011 TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK, 4 MI. WE HAD THE TFC VISUALLY AND ON TCASII AND ACKNOWLEDGED VISUAL CONTACT TO ATC. THEN RECEIVED A TCASII TA ALERT ON THE L1011. AT 11 DME PASSING 9700 FT, WE WERE TOLD BY APCH THAT WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 10000 FT. AT THE SAME TIME, RECEIVED A TCASII RA TO 'CLB, CLB.' THE PF (CAPT) IMMEDIATELY STOPPED DSCNT AND CLBED TO 10000 FT. WE CHKED OUR ALT BAROMETRIC SELECTOR AND IT WAS SET AT 7000 FT AND INFORMED APCH THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 7000 FT. APCH SAID THAT WAS FOR ANOTHER ACFT. OUR DSCNT WAS STOPPED AT 9600 FT (600 FT ABOVE L1011) BEFORE CLBING AND WE PASSED ABOUT 1/2 - 1 MI BEHIND THE L1011 WHILE KEEPING HIM IN SIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. AFTER LNDG THE CAPT CALLED THE APCH CTL SUPVR ON THE PHONE AND THE SUPVR ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE TAPES CONFIRMED WE HAD IN FACT BEEN CLRED TO 7000 FT, NOT 10000 FT, AND IT WAS THEIR ERROR. LUCKILY WE WERE VMC AND NOT IN IMC. I READ BACK ALL ALT CLRNCS AND ALWAYS USED OUR FULL CALL SIGN, IE, 'ACR X CLRED TO 7000 FT.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.