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Attributes | |
ACN | 360226 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vwv |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | controller military : 11 flight time last 90 days : 245 flight time total : 4260 flight time type : 1133 |
ASRS Report | 360226 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 360099 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | faa : investigated other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
On taxi out of cle, left pack duct overheat and pack trip reset via SOP. Left pack trip returned. Contacted maintenance and had left pack deferred. Cleared to ord via 1 pack operation at amended altitude FL240. Takeoff and climb out normal. Cabin pressurization working ok. As we climbed through approximately FL180 I noticed cabin altitude was excessive. Stated that fact and almost immediately the cabin altitude horn sounded. Captain asked if I could control cabin. My response was I'm going to stand by, manual AC/dc outflow valve is closed, no! We started a descent to 10000 ft. While in the descent cabin altitude continued to climb and eventually reached 14000 ft and the masks deployed. Once level at 10000 ft the cabin was still not coming down. Flight attendants said that the passenger were complaining of inability to get air from mask. Captain told me to manually pull handle and I complied. We requested a descent to 8000 ft. 1 passenger (female) wasn't doing well. On board medical personnel attended to her needs. They requested first aid kit from cockpit and I complied. Couldn't contact dispatch throughout entire flight. They could hear us but we couldn't hear them. Airflow through cabin still poor. Captain directed left pack on, cabin pressure normal. Sometime during scenario, I believe the captain or first officer requested priority handling from ATC and that paramedics meet the aircraft at gate at ord. ATC complied with all requests. Turned left pack off on descent to ord. Cabin pressure worked fine. Uneventful landing, taxi and parking. Met ambulance, dispatch and maintenance personnel at gate. Lesson learned: pay particular attention to irregular operations equipment during climb out. I probably spent too much time watching altitudes, frequency changes, and what was going on up front. Supplemental information from acn 360099: the cabin pressure was soon regained with a different system, and we asked for expedition type handling by ATC into ord on account of a passenger with a respiratory problem having trouble breathing. First aid oxygen was administered and paramedics were on hand at the gate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT CLBING TO FL230 ENCOUNTERED LOSS OF CABIN PRESSURE AT FL180. REQUESTED LOWER ALT BUT THE CABIN REACHED 14000 FT AND THE OXYGEN MASKS DEPLOYED. DSNDED TO 8000 FT AND CONTINUED FLT TO ORD WITH PRIORITY HANDLING. 1 PAX HAVING PROBS BREATHING AND REQUESTED MEDICS MEET THE FLT IN ORD. UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH DISPATCH.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT OF CLE, L PACK DUCT OVERHEAT AND PACK TRIP RESET VIA SOP. L PACK TRIP RETURNED. CONTACTED MAINT AND HAD L PACK DEFERRED. CLRED TO ORD VIA 1 PACK OP AT AMENDED ALT FL240. TKOF AND CLB OUT NORMAL. CABIN PRESSURIZATION WORKING OK. AS WE CLBED THROUGH APPROX FL180 I NOTICED CABIN ALT WAS EXCESSIVE. STATED THAT FACT AND ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THE CABIN ALT HORN SOUNDED. CAPT ASKED IF I COULD CTL CABIN. MY RESPONSE WAS I'M GOING TO STAND BY, MANUAL AC/DC OUTFLOW VALVE IS CLOSED, NO! WE STARTED A DSCNT TO 10000 FT. WHILE IN THE DSCNT CABIN ALT CONTINUED TO CLB AND EVENTUALLY REACHED 14000 FT AND THE MASKS DEPLOYED. ONCE LEVEL AT 10000 FT THE CABIN WAS STILL NOT COMING DOWN. FLT ATTENDANTS SAID THAT THE PAX WERE COMPLAINING OF INABILITY TO GET AIR FROM MASK. CAPT TOLD ME TO MANUALLY PULL HANDLE AND I COMPLIED. WE REQUESTED A DSCNT TO 8000 FT. 1 PAX (FEMALE) WASN'T DOING WELL. ON BOARD MEDICAL PERSONNEL ATTENDED TO HER NEEDS. THEY REQUESTED FIRST AID KIT FROM COCKPIT AND I COMPLIED. COULDN'T CONTACT DISPATCH THROUGHOUT ENTIRE FLT. THEY COULD HEAR US BUT WE COULDN'T HEAR THEM. AIRFLOW THROUGH CABIN STILL POOR. CAPT DIRECTED L PACK ON, CABIN PRESSURE NORMAL. SOMETIME DURING SCENARIO, I BELIEVE THE CAPT OR FO REQUESTED PRIORITY HANDLING FROM ATC AND THAT PARAMEDICS MEET THE ACFT AT GATE AT ORD. ATC COMPLIED WITH ALL REQUESTS. TURNED L PACK OFF ON DSCNT TO ORD. CABIN PRESSURE WORKED FINE. UNEVENTFUL LNDG, TAXI AND PARKING. MET AMBULANCE, DISPATCH AND MAINT PERSONNEL AT GATE. LESSON LEARNED: PAY PARTICULAR ATTN TO IRREGULAR OPS EQUIP DURING CLB OUT. I PROBABLY SPENT TOO MUCH TIME WATCHING ALTS, FREQ CHANGES, AND WHAT WAS GOING ON UP FRONT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 360099: THE CABIN PRESSURE WAS SOON REGAINED WITH A DIFFERENT SYS, AND WE ASKED FOR EXPEDITION TYPE HANDLING BY ATC INTO ORD ON ACCOUNT OF A PAX WITH A RESPIRATORY PROB HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING. FIRST AID OXYGEN WAS ADMINISTERED AND PARAMEDICS WERE ON HAND AT THE GATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.