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Attributes | |
ACN | 360375 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : skw airport : anc |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Skywagon 185 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 360375 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
In sum: a radio/tv service contacted the reporter regarding a flight over an aircraft crash site on the dall glacier. The reporter called the kenai FSS and talked to a live briefer for WX and NOTAMS regarding a temporary airspace restr over the crash site. The briefer reported that there were no NOTAMS in effect. Approaching the site, the reporter switched to a frequency given by the FSS that would be appropriate for aircraft over the site. A helicopter working the site agreed that there would be no conflict. The park service and the FAA have come after the reporter for violating a temporary restr airspace and ignoring a NOTAM that had been published. An FAA representative has agreed that there was no NOTAM published when the reporter asked for it. The reporter is concerned that it took hours for a NOTAM to be issued after the park service asked for it. The reporter feels that he is being made a scapegoat for the inefficiencies of the NOTAM system. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter was flying a C185 on skis. He was immediately let off of the hook when the FSS tapes were reviewed showing that he had specifically asked for any NOTAMS regarding the crash site. The tv station knew that there was a no-fly zone in effect, but did not tell the reporter. The reporter does not know why the request for the NOTAM had not gotten to the kenai FSS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C185 PLT WAS HIRED TO FLY NEWS PHOTOGRAPHERS TO AN ACFT ACCIDENT SITE. HE PROPERLY CHKED FOR A NOTAM REGARDING A TEMPORARY RESTR AREA OVER THE SITE AND NONE WAS FOUND. A NOTAM HAD BEEN PUBLISHED, BUT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE ENA FSS OR THE RPTR.
Narrative: IN SUM: A RADIO/TV SVC CONTACTED THE RPTR REGARDING A FLT OVER AN ACFT CRASH SITE ON THE DALL GLACIER. THE RPTR CALLED THE KENAI FSS AND TALKED TO A LIVE BRIEFER FOR WX AND NOTAMS REGARDING A TEMPORARY AIRSPACE RESTR OVER THE CRASH SITE. THE BRIEFER RPTED THAT THERE WERE NO NOTAMS IN EFFECT. APCHING THE SITE, THE RPTR SWITCHED TO A FREQ GIVEN BY THE FSS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ACFT OVER THE SITE. A HELI WORKING THE SITE AGREED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CONFLICT. THE PARK SVC AND THE FAA HAVE COME AFTER THE RPTR FOR VIOLATING A TEMPORARY RESTR AIRSPACE AND IGNORING A NOTAM THAT HAD BEEN PUBLISHED. AN FAA REPRESENTATIVE HAS AGREED THAT THERE WAS NO NOTAM PUBLISHED WHEN THE RPTR ASKED FOR IT. THE RPTR IS CONCERNED THAT IT TOOK HRS FOR A NOTAM TO BE ISSUED AFTER THE PARK SVC ASKED FOR IT. THE RPTR FEELS THAT HE IS BEING MADE A SCAPEGOAT FOR THE INEFFICIENCIES OF THE NOTAM SYS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR WAS FLYING A C185 ON SKIS. HE WAS IMMEDIATELY LET OFF OF THE HOOK WHEN THE FSS TAPES WERE REVIEWED SHOWING THAT HE HAD SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR ANY NOTAMS REGARDING THE CRASH SITE. THE TV STATION KNEW THAT THERE WAS A NO-FLY ZONE IN EFFECT, BUT DID NOT TELL THE RPTR. THE RPTR DOES NOT KNOW WHY THE REQUEST FOR THE NOTAM HAD NOT GOTTEN TO THE KENAI FSS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.