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Attributes | |
ACN | 360420 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gpt |
State Reference | MS |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 5400 |
ASRS Report | 360420 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were scheduled and flew a supplemental flight for the military from gpt to yuma, az. I understood the return flight to gpt to be empty and a ferry flight. Total flight time was 4 hours 10 mins to yuma and 2 hours 54 mins back to gpt. Total of 4 hours 10 mins supplemental and 2 hours 54 mins part 91. After a rest period of 12 hours 36 mins, we returned to the airport to fly gpt to pie and back. Total flight time was 2 hours 45 mins under part 121 supplemental. I interpreted the part 91 flying the night before to be not included in the total part 121 supplemental flying time which determines rest requirements. The company, however, included the return ferry flight the night before in the total part 121 flying which meant a rest of 7 hours 4 mins X 2 = 14 hours 8 mins would be required and they determined that we were therefore not legal to fly gpt-pie-gpt on the saturday. Scheduling should have planned this trip with more emphasis of what part we were operating under and what the legal rest would be and I should have asked them earlier.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ACR TRANSPORT JET DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT REST PERIOD FOR THE FLT TIME FLOWN PRIOR TO NEXT ASSIGNED FLT. FLC DID NOT CONSIDER PART 91 FERRY FLT AS COUNTING TOWARD FLT TIME FOR REST PERIOD. COMPANY PERSONNEL USED THAT TIME AS COMMERCIAL FLYING TIME, AS THEY SHOULD, TO COMPUTE FLT TIME FOR REQUIRED REST PERIOD.
Narrative: WE WERE SCHEDULED AND FLEW A SUPPLEMENTAL FLT FOR THE MIL FROM GPT TO YUMA, AZ. I UNDERSTOOD THE RETURN FLT TO GPT TO BE EMPTY AND A FERRY FLT. TOTAL FLT TIME WAS 4 HRS 10 MINS TO YUMA AND 2 HRS 54 MINS BACK TO GPT. TOTAL OF 4 HRS 10 MINS SUPPLEMENTAL AND 2 HRS 54 MINS PART 91. AFTER A REST PERIOD OF 12 HRS 36 MINS, WE RETURNED TO THE ARPT TO FLY GPT TO PIE AND BACK. TOTAL FLT TIME WAS 2 HRS 45 MINS UNDER PART 121 SUPPLEMENTAL. I INTERPRETED THE PART 91 FLYING THE NIGHT BEFORE TO BE NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL PART 121 SUPPLEMENTAL FLYING TIME WHICH DETERMINES REST REQUIREMENTS. THE COMPANY, HOWEVER, INCLUDED THE RETURN FERRY FLT THE NIGHT BEFORE IN THE TOTAL PART 121 FLYING WHICH MEANT A REST OF 7 HRS 4 MINS X 2 = 14 HRS 8 MINS WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THEY DETERMINED THAT WE WERE THEREFORE NOT LEGAL TO FLY GPT-PIE-GPT ON THE SATURDAY. SCHEDULING SHOULD HAVE PLANNED THIS TRIP WITH MORE EMPHASIS OF WHAT PART WE WERE OPERATING UNDER AND WHAT THE LEGAL REST WOULD BE AND I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THEM EARLIER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.