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Attributes | |
ACN | 360600 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fll |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 600 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : fll tower : tys |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 360600 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On visual approach to runway 9L at fll, we were 'cleared to land.' on a 2 1/2 mi final, we observed a line of aircraft waiting for takeoff. Another air carrier was cleared for takeoff. We looked for movement and we noticed the #2 aircraft maneuvering around the #1 aircraft to take the runway. At this time we were on a 2 mi final. We told the controller 'this isn't going to work!' her response was (while we were at 600 ft AGL) 'can you accept a right base to runway 13!??' we said 'negative we are going around!' we went around, returned for landing with no further incident. Upon arrival at the gate, the captain called the tower supervisor who was not very concerned with the situation. The captain and myself agreed that it was very poor controling on the tower's part. Also the other aircraft taking the runway didn't check final before takeoff, if they had, they would have seen there was no time or space for them to maneuver around an aircraft and make their takeoff. Like mom always says 'look both ways...!'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATCT LCL CTLR CLRED AN ACR FK10 TO LAND RWY 9L AND THEN CLRED AN ACR B737 FOR TKOF ON THE SAME RWY. THE B737 HAD TO MANEUVER AROUND ANOTHER ACFT TO GET TO THE RWY. THE RPTR THEN TOLD THE TWR IT WOULDN'T WORK AND WAS OFFERED RWY 13 WHICH THE RPTR DECLINED AND HIS ACFT MADE A GAR.
Narrative: ON VISUAL APCH TO RWY 9L AT FLL, WE WERE 'CLRED TO LAND.' ON A 2 1/2 MI FINAL, WE OBSERVED A LINE OF ACFT WAITING FOR TKOF. ANOTHER ACR WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. WE LOOKED FOR MOVEMENT AND WE NOTICED THE #2 ACFT MANEUVERING AROUND THE #1 ACFT TO TAKE THE RWY. AT THIS TIME WE WERE ON A 2 MI FINAL. WE TOLD THE CTLR 'THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK!' HER RESPONSE WAS (WHILE WE WERE AT 600 FT AGL) 'CAN YOU ACCEPT A R BASE TO RWY 13!??' WE SAID 'NEGATIVE WE ARE GOING AROUND!' WE WENT AROUND, RETURNED FOR LNDG WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT. UPON ARR AT THE GATE, THE CAPT CALLED THE TWR SUPVR WHO WAS NOT VERY CONCERNED WITH THE SIT. THE CAPT AND MYSELF AGREED THAT IT WAS VERY POOR CTLING ON THE TWR'S PART. ALSO THE OTHER ACFT TAKING THE RWY DIDN'T CHK FINAL BEFORE TKOF, IF THEY HAD, THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN THERE WAS NO TIME OR SPACE FOR THEM TO MANEUVER AROUND AN ACFT AND MAKE THEIR TKOF. LIKE MOM ALWAYS SAYS 'LOOK BOTH WAYS...!'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.