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Attributes | |
ACN | 360765 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bmi airport : pia |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 238 flight time total : 15500 flight time type : 238 |
ASRS Report | 360765 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 156 flight time total : 2975 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 360785 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Before leaving the gate at pia I observed the tailstand in the possession of the ramp agent. Our 13 min flight to bmi proceeded without incident. On arriving at the bmi gate I was advised by a ramp agent that the tailstand was still in place. I then notified the company maintenance operations control. The tailstand and mount were inspected and no damage noted. Maintenance operations control informed me no further action was required. I also notified my chief pilot and submitted a company debrief. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this air carrier ATR72 flight crew had been rerouted through pia after another aircraft was delayed. The pia ground personnel were not used to handling this type of aircraft although they had been trained on it, the reporter said. He said that when the ramp agent showed him that the tail stand had been removed he thought that the agent was going to put the stand over by some other ground equipment. Later, of course, he found that some last-minute bags had arrived and the agent, following procedure, reinstalled the stand and forgot it. The reporter said that there was no aerodynamic effect noted during takeoff, flight, or landing since the stand and its attachment is designed to allow it to streamline behind the aircraft. He said that the stand was shipped back to pia. There was no punishment for the flight crew and the agent received minimal punishment plus retraining.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR ATR72 FLC DEPARTS WITH THE TAILSTAND STILL ATTACHED. THE FLC MADE THE SHORT FLT TO BMI WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Narrative: BEFORE LEAVING THE GATE AT PIA I OBSERVED THE TAILSTAND IN THE POSSESSION OF THE RAMP AGENT. OUR 13 MIN FLT TO BMI PROCEEDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. ON ARRIVING AT THE BMI GATE I WAS ADVISED BY A RAMP AGENT THAT THE TAILSTAND WAS STILL IN PLACE. I THEN NOTIFIED THE COMPANY MAINT OPS CTL. THE TAILSTAND AND MOUNT WERE INSPECTED AND NO DAMAGE NOTED. MAINT OPS CTL INFORMED ME NO FURTHER ACTION WAS REQUIRED. I ALSO NOTIFIED MY CHIEF PLT AND SUBMITTED A COMPANY DEBRIEF. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS ACR ATR72 FLC HAD BEEN REROUTED THROUGH PIA AFTER ANOTHER ACFT WAS DELAYED. THE PIA GND PERSONNEL WERE NOT USED TO HANDLING THIS TYPE OF AIRCRAFT ALTHOUGH THEY HAD BEEN TRAINED ON IT, THE RPTR SAID. HE SAID THAT WHEN THE RAMP AGENT SHOWED HIM THAT THE TAIL STAND HAD BEEN REMOVED HE THOUGHT THAT THE AGENT WAS GOING TO PUT THE STAND OVER BY SOME OTHER GND EQUIP. LATER, OF COURSE, HE FOUND THAT SOME LAST-MINUTE BAGS HAD ARRIVED AND THE AGENT, FOLLOWING PROC, REINSTALLED THE STAND AND FORGOT IT. THE RPTR SAID THAT THERE WAS NO AERODYNAMIC EFFECT NOTED DURING TKOF, FLT, OR LNDG SINCE THE STAND AND ITS ATTACHMENT IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW IT TO STREAMLINE BEHIND THE ACFT. HE SAID THAT THE STAND WAS SHIPPED BACK TO PIA. THERE WAS NO PUNISHMENT FOR THE FLC AND THE AGENT RECEIVED MINIMAL PUNISHMENT PLUS RETRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.