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B727 on vector 190 degrees. Queried controller if to join lda and controller advised fly 190 degrees. Next controller questioned the flight once through the lda and vectored the aircraft to intercept the lda.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 360890 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| ASRS Report | 360890 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 360888 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On vectors for approach aircraft was assigned a heading with a clearance to join the lda. We asked for a verification and controller then said fly 190 degree heading but did not say cleared for approach. We flew through lda and then ATC assigned new heading to intercept the approach. Approach controller asked if we were on the lda, we responded no because we were on a heading from the previous frequency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 ON VECTOR 190 DEGS. QUERIED CTLR IF TO JOIN LDA AND CTLR ADVISED FLY 190 DEGS. NEXT CTLR QUESTIONED THE FLT ONCE THROUGH THE LDA AND VECTORED THE ACFT TO INTERCEPT THE LDA.
Narrative: ON VECTORS FOR APCH ACFT WAS ASSIGNED A HEADING WITH A CLRNC TO JOIN THE LDA. WE ASKED FOR A VERIFICATION AND CTLR THEN SAID FLY 190 DEG HDG BUT DID NOT SAY CLRED FOR APCH. WE FLEW THROUGH LDA AND THEN ATC ASSIGNED NEW HEADING TO INTERCEPT THE APCH. APCH CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE ON THE LDA, WE RESPONDED NO BECAUSE WE WERE ON A HEADING FROM THE PREVIOUS FREQ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.