Airman flight check activity turns sour when PIC of B737-200 elects to depart gate without producing...

Attributes
ACN	361067
Time
Date	199702
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ind
State Reference	IN
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 800 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 8300
ASRS Report	361067
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : investigated other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

We arrived at ind 20 mins late and had a leading edge flap light problem. Upon arrival at the gate the operations agent advised me that we would have a FAA safety inspector onboard to mdw. The inspector, a mr X, came to the cockpit and introduced himself and I checked his papers then I told him I needed to get out of the cockpit to take care of a MEL item. I returned and had to get around him and then leave again. I then jumped into my seat and we were now 35 mins late with the chance to be back on time out of (midway) mdw. The inspector asked to see my medical and certificate and I said ok but would show it to him in the air since we were 35 mins late. He said nothing. We completed the checklist and then I asked him to turn on his oxygen and audio panel. While taxiing out I could see he was not happy. Then while still taxiing in a sterile cockpit environment he made a comment, 'how do I know you have a B737 type rating.' I stopped the aircraft and set the brake and told him that all my paperwork was on file in air carrier and is checked by his peers and if he continued to disrupt this aircraft I would return to the gate and ask him to leave. Several other words were exchanged. Out of 10000 ft I offered my medical and certificate to him as promised and he told me that he didn't need to see them now. After arrival at the gate in mdw, he was slow to get out of his seat. I asked if he had anything for us and he responded that I would be hearing from him and that he had told me that I was in violation of taking off after he said he would violate me without showing him my papers. I told him that I did not hear him say that but only that he asked if I was typed in the aircraft. I told him I was trying to get the aircraft back on time and he said that since we were late it did not hurt to be later. There was more words, but this is the gist of it.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AIRMAN FLT CHK ACTIVITY TURNS SOUR WHEN PIC OF B737-200 ELECTS TO DEPART GATE WITHOUT PRODUCING HIS CERTIFICATES FOR INSPECTION TO THE ACI ON BOARD.

Narrative: WE ARRIVED AT IND 20 MINS LATE AND HAD A LEADING EDGE FLAP LIGHT PROB. UPON ARR AT THE GATE THE OPS AGENT ADVISED ME THAT WE WOULD HAVE A FAA SAFETY INSPECTOR ONBOARD TO MDW. THE INSPECTOR, A MR X, CAME TO THE COCKPIT AND INTRODUCED HIMSELF AND I CHKED HIS PAPERS THEN I TOLD HIM I NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THE COCKPIT TO TAKE CARE OF A MEL ITEM. I RETURNED AND HAD TO GET AROUND HIM AND THEN LEAVE AGAIN. I THEN JUMPED INTO MY SEAT AND WE WERE NOW 35 MINS LATE WITH THE CHANCE TO BE BACK ON TIME OUT OF (MIDWAY) MDW. THE INSPECTOR ASKED TO SEE MY MEDICAL AND CERTIFICATE AND I SAID OK BUT WOULD SHOW IT TO HIM IN THE AIR SINCE WE WERE 35 MINS LATE. HE SAID NOTHING. WE COMPLETED THE CHKLIST AND THEN I ASKED HIM TO TURN ON HIS OXYGEN AND AUDIO PANEL. WHILE TAXIING OUT I COULD SEE HE WAS NOT HAPPY. THEN WHILE STILL TAXIING IN A STERILE COCKPIT ENVIRONMENT HE MADE A COMMENT, 'HOW DO I KNOW YOU HAVE A B737 TYPE RATING.' I STOPPED THE ACFT AND SET THE BRAKE AND TOLD HIM THAT ALL MY PAPERWORK WAS ON FILE IN ACR AND IS CHKED BY HIS PEERS AND IF HE CONTINUED TO DISRUPT THIS ACFT I WOULD RETURN TO THE GATE AND ASK HIM TO LEAVE. SEVERAL OTHER WORDS WERE EXCHANGED. OUT OF 10000 FT I OFFERED MY MEDICAL AND CERTIFICATE TO HIM AS PROMISED AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T NEED TO SEE THEM NOW. AFTER ARR AT THE GATE IN MDW, HE WAS SLOW TO GET OUT OF HIS SEAT. I ASKED IF HE HAD ANYTHING FOR US AND HE RESPONDED THAT I WOULD BE HEARING FROM HIM AND THAT HE HAD TOLD ME THAT I WAS IN VIOLATION OF TAKING OFF AFTER HE SAID HE WOULD VIOLATE ME WITHOUT SHOWING HIM MY PAPERS. I TOLD HIM THAT I DID NOT HEAR HIM SAY THAT BUT ONLY THAT HE ASKED IF I WAS TYPED IN THE ACFT. I TOLD HIM I WAS TRYING TO GET THE ACFT BACK ON TIME AND HE SAID THAT SINCE WE WERE LATE IT DID NOT HURT TO BE LATER. THERE WAS MORE WORDS, BUT THIS IS THE GIST OF IT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Airman flight check activity turns sour when PIC of B737-200 elects to depart gate without producing his certificates for inspection to the aci on board.