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An FAA inspector checked the flight crew of an ATR72 during preflight prior to an en route inspection and disclosed that the first officer did not have his pilot or medical certificates in his possession.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 383150 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : tul |
| State Reference | OK |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 13600 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 383150 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 210 |
| ASRS Report | 383161 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had flown from dfw to tul. We were getting ready for flight back to dfw. FAA inspector entered our cockpit and advised us of an en route check. When he requested our airmen certificates and medical certificates, my first officer told me that his wallet was in his suitcase in dfw. His ATP certificate was in his wallet. The FAA inspector started to ask my first officer questions and made notes. I looked up the procedure in our flight manual to get a replacement temporary document for the first officer and called dispatch from our cockpit. This procedure was followed. My first officer left the cockpit to retrieve out of e-mail a 'tcd' (temporary confirmation document). He returned, showed it to the inspector, who took information from it. We departed. My first officer crew member had flown from dfw to tul without his ATP certificate on him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN FAA INSPECTOR CHKED THE FLC OF AN ATR72 DURING PREFLT PRIOR TO AN ENRTE INSPECTION AND DISCLOSED THAT THE FO DID NOT HAVE HIS PLT OR MEDICAL CERTIFICATES IN HIS POSSESSION.
Narrative: WE HAD FLOWN FROM DFW TO TUL. WE WERE GETTING READY FOR FLT BACK TO DFW. FAA INSPECTOR ENTERED OUR COCKPIT AND ADVISED US OF AN ENRTE CHK. WHEN HE REQUESTED OUR AIRMEN CERTIFICATES AND MEDICAL CERTIFICATES, MY FO TOLD ME THAT HIS WALLET WAS IN HIS SUITCASE IN DFW. HIS ATP CERTIFICATE WAS IN HIS WALLET. THE FAA INSPECTOR STARTED TO ASK MY FO QUESTIONS AND MADE NOTES. I LOOKED UP THE PROC IN OUR FLT MANUAL TO GET A REPLACEMENT TEMPORARY DOCUMENT FOR THE FO AND CALLED DISPATCH FROM OUR COCKPIT. THIS PROC WAS FOLLOWED. MY FO LEFT THE COCKPIT TO RETRIEVE OUT OF E-MAIL A 'TCD' (TEMPORARY CONFIRMATION DOCUMENT). HE RETURNED, SHOWED IT TO THE INSPECTOR, WHO TOOK INFO FROM IT. WE DEPARTED. MY FO CREW MEMBER HAD FLOWN FROM DFW TO TUL WITHOUT HIS ATP CERTIFICATE ON HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.