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Reporter claims to have observed an air carrier EA32 make evasive turns away from jump aircraft jump activity. Reporter had exchanged traffic with both aircraft. Reporter alleges jump aircraft chose to make the jump in front over the air carrier. No indication of air carrier reporting a near midair collision.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 361349 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : las |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller non radar : 1 controller radar : 20 flight time total : 60 |
| ASRS Report | 361349 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 0 |
Narrative:
Air carrier X inbound descending to 8000 ft MSL. A parachute aircraft called and advised inbound on 'jump run.' traffic was passed to both aircraft. The jump aircraft's pilot chose to make the jump in front/over inbound air carrier X. I observed air carrier X make evasive turns to the west. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated this is a relatively new jump area and indicated that it has been in operations for about 1 yr. Reporter stated the jump operator had previously been working at another county airport but alleges the operations was moved by the county to another county airport, the present location, due to land development at the old jump area. Reporter stated the new jump area is on the final approach course to runway 11 and within a VFR fly away area. Reporter stated that about 6 months ago there was a near midair collision in the same area involving a different air carrier company. Reporter indicated that the facility has refused to work with the operator on an LOA as the operator is uncooperative and the locations he wants are within the class B airspace. Reporter indicated the pilot of the jump aircraft gave a 1 1/2 min warning before releasing the jumpers rather than the usual 2 mins. Reporter said that there are 2 jump aircraft with one being a C411 and the other a single engine type. Reporter did not know the type used during this incident. Reporter is unaware if the air carrier flight crew called or filed a near midair collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS TO HAVE OBSERVED AN ACR EA32 MAKE EVASIVE TURNS AWAY FROM JUMP ACFT JUMP ACTIVITY. RPTR HAD EXCHANGED TFC WITH BOTH ACFT. RPTR ALLEGES JUMP ACFT CHOSE TO MAKE THE JUMP IN FRONT OVER THE ACR. NO INDICATION OF ACR RPTING A NMAC.
Narrative: ACR X INBOUND DSNDING TO 8000 FT MSL. A PARACHUTE ACFT CALLED AND ADVISED INBOUND ON 'JUMP RUN.' TFC WAS PASSED TO BOTH ACFT. THE JUMP ACFT'S PLT CHOSE TO MAKE THE JUMP IN FRONT/OVER INBOUND ACR X. I OBSERVED ACR X MAKE EVASIVE TURNS TO THE W. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW JUMP AREA AND INDICATED THAT IT HAS BEEN IN OPS FOR ABOUT 1 YR. RPTR STATED THE JUMP OPERATOR HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN WORKING AT ANOTHER COUNTY ARPT BUT ALLEGES THE OPS WAS MOVED BY THE COUNTY TO ANOTHER COUNTY ARPT, THE PRESENT LOCATION, DUE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT AT THE OLD JUMP AREA. RPTR STATED THE NEW JUMP AREA IS ON THE FINAL APCH COURSE TO RWY 11 AND WITHIN A VFR FLY AWAY AREA. RPTR STATED THAT ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO THERE WAS A NMAC IN THE SAME AREA INVOLVING A DIFFERENT ACR COMPANY. RPTR INDICATED THAT THE FACILITY HAS REFUSED TO WORK WITH THE OPERATOR ON AN LOA AS THE OPERATOR IS UNCOOPERATIVE AND THE LOCATIONS HE WANTS ARE WITHIN THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. RPTR INDICATED THE PLT OF THE JUMP ACFT GAVE A 1 1/2 MIN WARNING BEFORE RELEASING THE JUMPERS RATHER THAN THE USUAL 2 MINS. RPTR SAID THAT THERE ARE 2 JUMP ACFT WITH ONE BEING A C411 AND THE OTHER A SINGLE ENG TYPE. RPTR DID NOT KNOW THE TYPE USED DURING THIS INCIDENT. RPTR IS UNAWARE IF THE ACR FLC CALLED OR FILED A NMAC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.