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Attributes | |
ACN | 361382 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : sff |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Xingu EMB-121 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : handoff position controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private |
Experience | controller radar : 13 flight time total : 100 |
ASRS Report | 361382 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 8000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
E120 was cleared to 9000 ft which placed it in conflict with the B737 when the B737 was turned north on departure SID. When the conflict was recognized, the E120 was issued traffic and told to maintain 8000 ft. The E120 continued to 8400 ft before starting back down. I should have been more insistent about the seriousness of the situation. The E120 pilot seemed to have taken his time leveling off the airplane. I am responsible for putting these aircraft in this situation, and did everything I could to resolve it. A quick push over to level at 8000 ft would have avoided this situation and kept the B737 TCASII RA from activating. After the B737 climbed on RA instructions, crossing traffic at 10000 ft was issued and the B737 descended back to 9000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEP CTLR CLBED AN ACR E120 TO SAME ALT AS A DEPARTING B737 WHO WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE E120 WHEN THE B737 TURNED ON HIS SID. THE DEP CTLR SAW THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND TRIED TO STOP THE E120 AT 8000 FT, BUT SEPARATION WAS LOST AND THE B737 REACTED TO A TCASII RA AND HAD TO DSND BACK TO HIS ALT BEFORE A SECOND CONFLICT OCCURRED.
Narrative: E120 WAS CLRED TO 9000 FT WHICH PLACED IT IN CONFLICT WITH THE B737 WHEN THE B737 WAS TURNED N ON DEP SID. WHEN THE CONFLICT WAS RECOGNIZED, THE E120 WAS ISSUED TFC AND TOLD TO MAINTAIN 8000 FT. THE E120 CONTINUED TO 8400 FT BEFORE STARTING BACK DOWN. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INSISTENT ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE SIT. THE E120 PLT SEEMED TO HAVE TAKEN HIS TIME LEVELING OFF THE AIRPLANE. I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THESE ACFT IN THIS SIT, AND DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO RESOLVE IT. A QUICK PUSH OVER TO LEVEL AT 8000 FT WOULD HAVE AVOIDED THIS SIT AND KEPT THE B737 TCASII RA FROM ACTIVATING. AFTER THE B737 CLBED ON RA INSTRUCTIONS, XING TFC AT 10000 FT WAS ISSUED AND THE B737 DSNDED BACK TO 9000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.