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Attributes | |
ACN | 361563 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 3 controller radar : 13 |
ASRS Report | 361563 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | oversight : supervisor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Simultaneous ILS approachs were being conducted to runways 25L and 24R into lax. The runway 25L ILS localizer went unexpectedly OTS. This obviously was a great concern to the arrival controller and associate position involved. Workload and phraseology were tremendously increased. An immediate decision was made by the arrival controller and the associate controller to hold the next couple of airplanes outside of the airspace until the positive transition to another approach could be made. During the next couple of extremely hectic mins of trying to insure separation and coordinate with the lax tower and all other adjacent sectors, the la area supervisor walks up to the sector and strongly voices his opinion about holding airplanes. He tried to intimidate the controllers into taking handoffs. This verbal harassment came at a time when the controllers needed assistance during a busy and hectic period. This has happened numerous times in the past. It continues to happen in the la area routinely. It is a hazard to flight safety. I am writing to NASA 'ASRS' because the other avenues that we have pursued do not seem to be correcting the problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A LOC FAILED DURING SIMULTANEOUS ILS APCHS AT LAX WHICH IMPACTED CTLR WORKLOAD. THE CTLR HELD ARR ACFT OUTSIDE OF HIS AIRSPACE UNTIL A TRANSITION TO ANOTHER APCH COULD BE SET UP. THE SUPVR DID NOT AGREE WITH THE CTLR TO HOLD INBOUND TFC AND ALLEGEDLY INTIMIDATED THE CTLR INTO ACCEPTING HDOFS.
Narrative: SIMULTANEOUS ILS APCHS WERE BEING CONDUCTED TO RWYS 25L AND 24R INTO LAX. THE RWY 25L ILS LOC WENT UNEXPECTEDLY OTS. THIS OBVIOUSLY WAS A GREAT CONCERN TO THE ARR CTLR AND ASSOCIATE POS INVOLVED. WORKLOAD AND PHRASEOLOGY WERE TREMENDOUSLY INCREASED. AN IMMEDIATE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE ARR CTLR AND THE ASSOCIATE CTLR TO HOLD THE NEXT COUPLE OF AIRPLANES OUTSIDE OF THE AIRSPACE UNTIL THE POSITIVE TRANSITION TO ANOTHER APCH COULD BE MADE. DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF EXTREMELY HECTIC MINS OF TRYING TO INSURE SEPARATION AND COORDINATE WITH THE LAX TWR AND ALL OTHER ADJACENT SECTORS, THE LA AREA SUPVR WALKS UP TO THE SECTOR AND STRONGLY VOICES HIS OPINION ABOUT HOLDING AIRPLANES. HE TRIED TO INTIMIDATE THE CTLRS INTO TAKING HDOFS. THIS VERBAL HARASSMENT CAME AT A TIME WHEN THE CTLRS NEEDED ASSISTANCE DURING A BUSY AND HECTIC PERIOD. THIS HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE PAST. IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN IN THE LA AREA ROUTINELY. IT IS A HAZARD TO FLT SAFETY. I AM WRITING TO NASA 'ASRS' BECAUSE THE OTHER AVENUES THAT WE HAVE PURSUED DO NOT SEEM TO BE CORRECTING THE PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.