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Attributes | |
ACN | 361625 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : yqx |
State Reference | NF |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czqx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 361625 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The flight was to proceed from eddf to bgr, with a re- dispatch point over 50 degrees north, 50 degrees west. Our combined efforts were focused primarily on the critical fuel situation, so none of us managed to catch a seemingly innocuous error on our dispatch release. We had been incorrectly released for 180 mins ETOPS when 120 mins would have been more appropriate. We were within 120 min range at all times during the flight, and I only managed to notice something amiss when the captain displayed the single etp on the alternate route in the FMS, there should have been 2 etp's. By that time, we were past 30 degrees west and it was a moot point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT HAD BEEN RELEASED WITH 1 180-MIN ETOPS AND 1 ETP. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED WITH 2 120-MIN ETOPS AND 2 ETP'S. FLC FAILED TO CATCH THE ERROR IN THE DISPATCH RELEASE.
Narrative: THE FLT WAS TO PROCEED FROM EDDF TO BGR, WITH A RE- DISPATCH POINT OVER 50 DEGS N, 50 DEGS W. OUR COMBINED EFFORTS WERE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON THE CRITICAL FUEL SIT, SO NONE OF US MANAGED TO CATCH A SEEMINGLY INNOCUOUS ERROR ON OUR DISPATCH RELEASE. WE HAD BEEN INCORRECTLY RELEASED FOR 180 MINS ETOPS WHEN 120 MINS WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE. WE WERE WITHIN 120 MIN RANGE AT ALL TIMES DURING THE FLT, AND I ONLY MANAGED TO NOTICE SOMETHING AMISS WHEN THE CAPT DISPLAYED THE SINGLE ETP ON THE ALTERNATE RTE IN THE FMS, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 2 ETP'S. BY THAT TIME, WE WERE PAST 30 DEGS W AND IT WAS A MOOT POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.