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Altitude deviation altitude crossing restr not met. Late descent started. Speed deviation in an attempt to comply. PIC kept first officer in conversation related to a previous aircraft problem.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 362140 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : als |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 21500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv tower : cle |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 362140 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ZDV cleared us to cross ALS at FL200 and 280 KTS. The descent was started too late, actually crossing ALS at FL215 and 340 KTS. It was obvious at the start of the descent we wouldn't make it, so I asked the captain to ask center for help on this. He said push the nose over and we can do it. A lot of distraction, continuous discussion by the captain of a previous mechanical problem he could just not let go of for a min. I was kept busy and lost my concentration on the descent clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT XING RESTR NOT MET. LATE DSCNT STARTED. SPD DEV IN AN ATTEMPT TO COMPLY. PIC KEPT FO IN CONVERSATION RELATED TO A PREVIOUS ACFT PROB.
Narrative: ZDV CLRED US TO CROSS ALS AT FL200 AND 280 KTS. THE DSCNT WAS STARTED TOO LATE, ACTUALLY XING ALS AT FL215 AND 340 KTS. IT WAS OBVIOUS AT THE START OF THE DSCNT WE WOULDN'T MAKE IT, SO I ASKED THE CAPT TO ASK CTR FOR HELP ON THIS. HE SAID PUSH THE NOSE OVER AND WE CAN DO IT. A LOT OF DISTR, CONTINUOUS DISCUSSION BY THE CAPT OF A PREVIOUS MECHANICAL PROB HE COULD JUST NOT LET GO OF FOR A MIN. I WAS KEPT BUSY AND LOST MY CONCENTRATION ON THE DSCNT CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.