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A300 captain complaint of outdated WX and radar information for flight planning purposes. Many flcs are not checking the date of the information on the computer screen. A landline is used to update this information.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 362490 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sju |
| State Reference | PR |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 362490 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Today is mar/xx/97. The wsi WX machines in sju operations have radar and satellite date in them dated 2 days earlier. Worse yet, people are using this data to plan their flts because they do not check the date/time groups in the bottom corner of the screen. Somebody is going to get hurt. I have written this up in the past. I understand that sju is outside the coverage area for the wsi system and uses a landline to update the data. That in itself is not the problem. Sju operations must -- repeat must -- put in place a system or procedure to monitor currency of this data. If it gets obsolete the data link must be restored immediately or the wsi machines at sju shut off to keep people from using dangerously out of data information for flight planning purposes. Also, the flight department must -- repeat must -- condition crew members to check the date/time information on data before using it to plan their flts. We have gotten too trusting in the system, a possibly fatal move into complacency. Something must, must, must be done.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A300 CAPT COMPLAINT OF OUTDATED WX AND RADAR INFO FOR FLT PLANNING PURPOSES. MANY FLCS ARE NOT CHKING THE DATE OF THE INFO ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN. A LANDLINE IS USED TO UPDATE THIS INFO.
Narrative: TODAY IS MAR/XX/97. THE WSI WX MACHINES IN SJU OPS HAVE RADAR AND SATELLITE DATE IN THEM DATED 2 DAYS EARLIER. WORSE YET, PEOPLE ARE USING THIS DATA TO PLAN THEIR FLTS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT CHK THE DATE/TIME GROUPS IN THE BOTTOM CORNER OF THE SCREEN. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET HURT. I HAVE WRITTEN THIS UP IN THE PAST. I UNDERSTAND THAT SJU IS OUTSIDE THE COVERAGE AREA FOR THE WSI SYS AND USES A LANDLINE TO UPDATE THE DATA. THAT IN ITSELF IS NOT THE PROB. SJU OPS MUST -- REPEAT MUST -- PUT IN PLACE A SYS OR PROC TO MONITOR CURRENCY OF THIS DATA. IF IT GETS OBSOLETE THE DATA LINK MUST BE RESTORED IMMEDIATELY OR THE WSI MACHINES AT SJU SHUT OFF TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM USING DANGEROUSLY OUT OF DATA INFO FOR FLT PLANNING PURPOSES. ALSO, THE FLT DEPT MUST -- REPEAT MUST -- CONDITION CREW MEMBERS TO CHK THE DATE/TIME INFO ON DATA BEFORE USING IT TO PLAN THEIR FLTS. WE HAVE GOTTEN TOO TRUSTING IN THE SYS, A POSSIBLY FATAL MOVE INTO COMPLACENCY. SOMETHING MUST, MUST, MUST BE DONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.