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Near midair collision with C182 reported by air carrier B737 flight crew during climb from ito. Flight crew had been informed of the traffic which had the air carrier in sight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 362599 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ito |
| State Reference | HI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ito tower : ito |
| Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 9 controller radar : 14 controller supervisory : 1 |
| ASRS Report | 362599 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was working radar approach control position. A C182 was overflying northwest to southeast at 4500 ft VFR. Air carrier X, B737, was departing runway 8 IFR. (Procedures here are that they can turn on course on departure.) tower gave air carrier X a TA of the cessna at 4500 ft. I was having trouble keeping radio communications with the cessna. I gave him several calls informing him of the jet departing runway 8. He acknowledged my call but was looking for the boeing. He reported the B737 insight. I gave air carrier X a TA about the cessna and that the cessna had him in sight. The boeing said that he did not see the cessna but turned left on course anyway. Air carrier X advised me that he was getting a TCASII RA, and asked if I was separating aircraft away from him. I reiterated to him that the cessna was VFR and that it is his responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. The cessna had reported the boeing jet in sight. Air carrier X advised me that he would file a near miss upon his landing in hnl. I asked him to call hilo tower and informed the controller in charge on duty. Radar printout from ZHN indicated 300 ft and 1 mi as the closed point of both aircraft, B737 nwbound and cessna sebound. The cessna said no compromise of safety at any time. I think that the air carrier pilot thought separation as in class B airspace applied, where we don't give that -- we are class D airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC WITH C182 RPTED BY ACR B737 FLC DURING CLB FROM ITO. FLC HAD BEEN INFORMED OF THE TFC WHICH HAD THE ACR IN SIGHT.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING RADAR APCH CTL POS. A C182 WAS OVERFLYING NW TO SE AT 4500 FT VFR. ACR X, B737, WAS DEPARTING RWY 8 IFR. (PROCS HERE ARE THAT THEY CAN TURN ON COURSE ON DEP.) TWR GAVE ACR X A TA OF THE CESSNA AT 4500 FT. I WAS HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING RADIO COMS WITH THE CESSNA. I GAVE HIM SEVERAL CALLS INFORMING HIM OF THE JET DEPARTING RWY 8. HE ACKNOWLEDGED MY CALL BUT WAS LOOKING FOR THE BOEING. HE RPTED THE B737 INSIGHT. I GAVE ACR X A TA ABOUT THE CESSNA AND THAT THE CESSNA HAD HIM IN SIGHT. THE BOEING SAID THAT HE DID NOT SEE THE CESSNA BUT TURNED L ON COURSE ANYWAY. ACR X ADVISED ME THAT HE WAS GETTING A TCASII RA, AND ASKED IF I WAS SEPARATING ACFT AWAY FROM HIM. I REITERATED TO HIM THAT THE CESSNA WAS VFR AND THAT IT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER ACFT. THE CESSNA HAD RPTED THE BOEING JET IN SIGHT. ACR X ADVISED ME THAT HE WOULD FILE A NEAR MISS UPON HIS LNDG IN HNL. I ASKED HIM TO CALL HILO TWR AND INFORMED THE CIC ON DUTY. RADAR PRINTOUT FROM ZHN INDICATED 300 FT AND 1 MI AS THE CLOSED POINT OF BOTH ACFT, B737 NWBOUND AND CESSNA SEBOUND. THE CESSNA SAID NO COMPROMISE OF SAFETY AT ANY TIME. I THINK THAT THE ACR PLT THOUGHT SEPARATION AS IN CLASS B AIRSPACE APPLIED, WHERE WE DON'T GIVE THAT -- WE ARE CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.