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Reported incident in which an air carrier B727 departed runway 4L over an light transport commuter holding in position on runway 29, an intersecting runway. Runway 4L does not physically intersect runway 29 -- the departure path crosses intersects it.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 363797 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 227 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 363799 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 40 vertical : 40 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While in position for takeoff on runway 29, intersection P, a B727 was cleared for takeoff on runway 4L. The centerline of runway 4L passes directly over intersection P on runway 29 where we were located. We were caught completely off guard when the B727, which used all the available runway on runway 4L for departure, passed right over us missing the aircraft by less than 50 ft. I yelled at the tower controller and told him I was moving my aircraft up and away from the intersection. The B727 scared the life out of myself, my crew, and my passenger. The controllers stated that the airspace between the departure end of runway 4L and the beginning of runway 29 at intersection P was 'unprotected' because the runways did not physically intercept each other. I filled out a company captain's irregularity report and notified the FAA. This procedure in departing an aircraft from runway 4L while there is an aircraft waiting to depart from intersection P on runway 29 is an accident waiting to happen which came too close to happening that night.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED INCIDENT IN WHICH AN ACR B727 DEPARTED RWY 4L OVER AN LTT COMMUTER HOLDING IN POS ON RWY 29, AN INTERSECTING RWY. RWY 4L DOES NOT PHYSICALLY INTERSECT RWY 29 -- THE DEP PATH CROSSES INTERSECTS IT.
Narrative: WHILE IN POS FOR TKOF ON RWY 29, INTXN P, A B727 WAS CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 4L. THE CTRLINE OF RWY 4L PASSES DIRECTLY OVER INTXN P ON RWY 29 WHERE WE WERE LOCATED. WE WERE CAUGHT COMPLETELY OFF GUARD WHEN THE B727, WHICH USED ALL THE AVAILABLE RWY ON RWY 4L FOR DEP, PASSED RIGHT OVER US MISSING THE ACFT BY LESS THAN 50 FT. I YELLED AT THE TWR CTLR AND TOLD HIM I WAS MOVING MY ACFT UP AND AWAY FROM THE INTXN. THE B727 SCARED THE LIFE OUT OF MYSELF, MY CREW, AND MY PAX. THE CTLRS STATED THAT THE AIRSPACE BTWN THE DEP END OF RWY 4L AND THE BEGINNING OF RWY 29 AT INTXN P WAS 'UNPROTECTED' BECAUSE THE RWYS DID NOT PHYSICALLY INTERCEPT EACH OTHER. I FILLED OUT A COMPANY CAPT'S IRREGULARITY RPT AND NOTIFIED THE FAA. THIS PROC IN DEPARTING AN ACFT FROM RWY 4L WHILE THERE IS AN ACFT WAITING TO DEPART FROM INTXN P ON RWY 29 IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN WHICH CAME TOO CLOSE TO HAPPENING THAT NIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.