Narrative:

We landed on lax runway 25L expecting to turn off on taxiway P, after having received approval from tower. As we were rolling down runway 25L after landing, tower told us to take the next high speed, which was occupied by a B727. I told the tower that the B727 was already there, and he told me to pull up beind him and that the taxiway was authority/authorized to hold 2 B757's. As I pulled onto taxiway M behind B727, I told the tower that my tail would not clear the hold short line for runway 25L. He again told me the taxiway was authority/authorized to hold 2 B757's. I pulled up behind the B727 as close as I dared, no more than 30 ft behind him as the tower cleared a B737 for takeoff on runway 25L, and I know my airplane was still over the hold short line. I was extremely uncomfortable with the situation. I know lax is overworked, but trying to stack two long planes on a fairly short taxiway, between runways, is pushing things way too far. They need to clear the high speeds between runways before clearing more planes onto them. I also think airplanes should be clear of hold short lines before other planes take off on runways. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this B757-200 captain said that he was told to take the next high speed taxiway as he was just coming up on taxiway left at a high indicated airspeed. He was too fast to make the turn. The controller then told him to take taxiway M. An air carrier B727-200 was already on taxiway M and the reporter said that he pointed this out. The controller said that he would fit as the taxiway would hold 2 B757's. The captain said that he could see that the available space would require his tail section to protrude beyond the hold line. The reporter said that he pulled to within 30 ft of the B727-200, but no closer to avoid ingesting exhaust fumes. The captain said that he was so uncomfortable with this situation that he will not do something like it in the future.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B757-200 FLC IS TOLD TO PULL IN BEHIND A B727-200 THAT WAS ALREADY HOLDING BTWN RWYS 25L AND 25R AT LAX. THE ACR B757-200 TAIL EXTENDED BEYOND THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25L WHILE A B737 TOOK OFF ON THAT RWY.

Narrative: WE LANDED ON LAX RWY 25L EXPECTING TO TURN OFF ON TXWY P, AFTER HAVING RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM TWR. AS WE WERE ROLLING DOWN RWY 25L AFTER LNDG, TWR TOLD US TO TAKE THE NEXT HIGH SPD, WHICH WAS OCCUPIED BY A B727. I TOLD THE TWR THAT THE B727 WAS ALREADY THERE, AND HE TOLD ME TO PULL UP BEIND HIM AND THAT THE TXWY WAS AUTH TO HOLD 2 B757'S. AS I PULLED ONTO TXWY M BEHIND B727, I TOLD THE TWR THAT MY TAIL WOULD NOT CLR THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 25L. HE AGAIN TOLD ME THE TXWY WAS AUTH TO HOLD 2 B757'S. I PULLED UP BEHIND THE B727 AS CLOSE AS I DARED, NO MORE THAN 30 FT BEHIND HIM AS THE TWR CLRED A B737 FOR TKOF ON RWY 25L, AND I KNOW MY AIRPLANE WAS STILL OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE. I WAS EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE SIT. I KNOW LAX IS OVERWORKED, BUT TRYING TO STACK TWO LONG PLANES ON A FAIRLY SHORT TXWY, BTWN RWYS, IS PUSHING THINGS WAY TOO FAR. THEY NEED TO CLR THE HIGH SPDS BTWN RWYS BEFORE CLRING MORE PLANES ONTO THEM. I ALSO THINK AIRPLANES SHOULD BE CLR OF HOLD SHORT LINES BEFORE OTHER PLANES TAKE OFF ON RWYS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS B757-200 CAPT SAID THAT HE WAS TOLD TO TAKE THE NEXT HIGH SPD TXWY AS HE WAS JUST COMING UP ON TXWY L AT A HIGH INDICATED AIRSPD. HE WAS TOO FAST TO MAKE THE TURN. THE CTLR THEN TOLD HIM TO TAKE TXWY M. AN ACR B727-200 WAS ALREADY ON TXWY M AND THE RPTR SAID THAT HE POINTED THIS OUT. THE CTLR SAID THAT HE WOULD FIT AS THE TXWY WOULD HOLD 2 B757'S. THE CAPT SAID THAT HE COULD SEE THAT THE AVAILABLE SPACE WOULD REQUIRE HIS TAIL SECTION TO PROTRUDE BEYOND THE HOLD LINE. THE RPTR SAID THAT HE PULLED TO WITHIN 30 FT OF THE B727-200, BUT NO CLOSER TO AVOID INGESTING EXHAUST FUMES. THE CAPT SAID THAT HE WAS SO UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS SIT THAT HE WILL NOT DO SOMETHING LIKE IT IN THE FUTURE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.