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Attributes | |
ACN | 365220 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : swf |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground other : taxi other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 365220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were ready to push back from the gate at newburgh airport. I asked the captain if we needed to call for pushback clearance (since the captain was just at this airport last week). He said no. We pushed back and completed our after start checklists when I called to taxi. Tower informed us we never called push and that we were supposed to call. Tower said there was no conflict and cleared us to taxi. The rest of the flight went uneventful. This problem could have been prevented if I just would have called ground for pushback clearance since the captain thought we did not have to and I did not know, I should have made the call. If both pilots are not in full agreement and there is any doubt, doublechk to make sure of your situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DC9-30 PUSHED BACK WITHOUT TWR CLRNC.
Narrative: WE WERE READY TO PUSH BACK FROM THE GATE AT NEWBURGH ARPT. I ASKED THE CAPT IF WE NEEDED TO CALL FOR PUSHBACK CLRNC (SINCE THE CAPT WAS JUST AT THIS ARPT LAST WK). HE SAID NO. WE PUSHED BACK AND COMPLETED OUR AFTER START CHKLISTS WHEN I CALLED TO TAXI. TWR INFORMED US WE NEVER CALLED PUSH AND THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CALL. TWR SAID THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND CLRED US TO TAXI. THE REST OF THE FLT WENT UNEVENTFUL. THIS PROB COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF I JUST WOULD HAVE CALLED GND FOR PUSHBACK CLRNC SINCE THE CAPT THOUGHT WE DID NOT HAVE TO AND I DID NOT KNOW, I SHOULD HAVE MADE THE CALL. IF BOTH PLTS ARE NOT IN FULL AGREEMENT AND THERE IS ANY DOUBT, DOUBLECHK TO MAKE SURE OF YOUR SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.