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ATR42 on the 254 radial mkk acknowledged descent to 2500 ft. Captain on #2 communication talking with tower for wind conditions. C172 on practice VOR approach. Cleared to hold northeast as published and maintain 3500 ft. Advised cleared to 2500 ft but would climb to 3500 ft. Captain canceled IFR.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 366520 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199704 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mkk |
| State Reference | HI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhn |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 366520 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | controller non radar : 8 controller radar : 8 flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 366300 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to intercept the 254 degree radial inbound to mkk VOR and given lower to 2500 ft. At the time I was flying and operating the #1 radio, the captain was on radio #2 to establish communication with mkk tower so we could cancel due to a slower IFR (C172 practice approach) traffic on the approach ahead of us. ATC then gave us a holding clearance (hold northeast as published 056 degree radial) and told us we should be at 3500 ft. We said we were given 2500 ft, but now are correcting to 3500 ft. The captain then requested to cancel IFR and it was granted. The altitude of 2500 ft was read back to the controller by myself and then was entered on the afcs. I believe it was a communication only, 2500 ft versus 3500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATR42 ON THE 254 RADIAL MKK ACKNOWLEDGED DSCNT TO 2500 FT. CAPT ON #2 COM TALKING WITH TWR FOR WIND CONDITIONS. C172 ON PRACTICE VOR APCH. CLRED TO HOLD NE AS PUBLISHED AND MAINTAIN 3500 FT. ADVISED CLRED TO 2500 FT BUT WOULD CLB TO 3500 FT. CAPT CANCELED IFR.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO INTERCEPT THE 254 DEG RADIAL INBOUND TO MKK VOR AND GIVEN LOWER TO 2500 FT. AT THE TIME I WAS FLYING AND OPERATING THE #1 RADIO, THE CAPT WAS ON RADIO #2 TO ESTABLISH COM WITH MKK TWR SO WE COULD CANCEL DUE TO A SLOWER IFR (C172 PRACTICE APCH) TFC ON THE APCH AHEAD OF US. ATC THEN GAVE US A HOLDING CLRNC (HOLD NE AS PUBLISHED 056 DEG RADIAL) AND TOLD US WE SHOULD BE AT 3500 FT. WE SAID WE WERE GIVEN 2500 FT, BUT NOW ARE CORRECTING TO 3500 FT. THE CAPT THEN REQUESTED TO CANCEL IFR AND IT WAS GRANTED. THE ALT OF 2500 FT WAS READ BACK TO THE CTLR BY MYSELF AND THEN WAS ENTERED ON THE AFCS. I BELIEVE IT WAS A COM ONLY, 2500 FT VERSUS 3500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.