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B727 acknowledged cleared for visual approach runway 22. 12 mi out descending through 3000 ft, controller advised had MSAW monitor altitude. Controller said should be above 3000 ft till 10 mi out. Climbed to 3000 ft until 10 mi final, then completed the visual and landing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 368289 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | controller : developmental pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2 flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 368289 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 370050 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Arriving lga we were approximately 12-14 DME north of airport. Approach control cleared us for the visual approach to runway 22. We acknowledged clearance and began descending for landing. At approximately 2600 ft, approach stated 'low altitude alert, check your altitude.' we acknowledged the altitude, then approach control stated we should maintain 3000 ft until 10 DME from field. We did not understand this in our clearance only that we were cleared for the visual approach. We immediately climbed to 3000 ft until 10 DME then a normal descent and landing was made. Nothing further was said.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 ACKNOWLEDGED CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH RWY 22. 12 MI OUT DSNDING THROUGH 3000 FT, CTLR ADVISED HAD MSAW MONITOR ALT. CTLR SAID SHOULD BE ABOVE 3000 FT TILL 10 MI OUT. CLBED TO 3000 FT UNTIL 10 MI FINAL, THEN COMPLETED THE VISUAL AND LNDG.
Narrative: ARRIVING LGA WE WERE APPROX 12-14 DME N OF ARPT. APCH CTL CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 22. WE ACKNOWLEDGED CLRNC AND BEGAN DSNDING FOR LNDG. AT APPROX 2600 FT, APCH STATED 'LOW ALT ALERT, CHK YOUR ALT.' WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE ALT, THEN APCH CTL STATED WE SHOULD MAINTAIN 3000 FT UNTIL 10 DME FROM FIELD. WE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THIS IN OUR CLRNC ONLY THAT WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH. WE IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO 3000 FT UNTIL 10 DME THEN A NORMAL DSCNT AND LNDG WAS MADE. NOTHING FURTHER WAS SAID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.