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Attributes | |
ACN | 368534 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mot |
State Reference | ND |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 368534 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Wind 320 degrees at 22 KTS gusting to 32 KTS. Aircraft was in stabilized approach from 1500 ft AGL to landing. Landing was soft/gentle. Left main gear touched first, followed by right gear (even more gentle than left). Ground spoilers did not deploy immediately. Prior to ground spoilers, a wind gust lifted right wing (right main gear still seemed on the ground). Left wing went down in reaction to right wing up. Pilot corrected to wings level, while ground spoilers deployed. Remainder of landing/rollout was normal. After landing, I commented to first officer, 'that is how you get a wingtip.' (I have never gotten one, but I had a hunch.) first officer replied that the roll was not significant enough to get a wingtip. I asked him how many degrees roll he felt we had. He said no greater than 5 degrees. (The afm says this aircraft could scrape a wingtip at approximately 8 degrees roll.) postflt inspection confirmed no wingtip damage. Regardless of the uneventful outcome, I tend to ponder flying events long after they are over -- I think most of us do. We try to learn from each trip, eventful or not. Conclusion: a firm (not hard) landing, resulting in immediate ground spoilers deployment would probably have prevented the wing rock. This approach required a lot of work all the way to the ground but the touchdown was too gentle (I guess I worked too hard). I have a lot of time in this aircraft. I am still trying to get it right all the time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EXPERIENCED IN ACFT TYPE, CAPT HAD MORE WING ROLL AROUND THE LONGITUDINAL AXIS OF THE ACFT DURING LNDG IN STRONG GUSTY WINDS THAN ANTICIPATED. HE WAS CONCERNED THAT HE HAD STRUCK A WINGTIP, BUT SUBSEQUENT ACFT INSPECTION DID NOT SHOW ANY SCRAPING.
Narrative: WIND 320 DEGS AT 22 KTS GUSTING TO 32 KTS. ACFT WAS IN STABILIZED APCH FROM 1500 FT AGL TO LNDG. LNDG WAS SOFT/GENTLE. L MAIN GEAR TOUCHED FIRST, FOLLOWED BY R GEAR (EVEN MORE GENTLE THAN L). GND SPOILERS DID NOT DEPLOY IMMEDIATELY. PRIOR TO GND SPOILERS, A WIND GUST LIFTED R WING (R MAIN GEAR STILL SEEMED ON THE GND). L WING WENT DOWN IN REACTION TO R WING UP. PLT CORRECTED TO WINGS LEVEL, WHILE GND SPOILERS DEPLOYED. REMAINDER OF LNDG/ROLLOUT WAS NORMAL. AFTER LNDG, I COMMENTED TO FO, 'THAT IS HOW YOU GET A WINGTIP.' (I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ONE, BUT I HAD A HUNCH.) FO REPLIED THAT THE ROLL WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO GET A WINGTIP. I ASKED HIM HOW MANY DEGS ROLL HE FELT WE HAD. HE SAID NO GREATER THAN 5 DEGS. (THE AFM SAYS THIS ACFT COULD SCRAPE A WINGTIP AT APPROX 8 DEGS ROLL.) POSTFLT INSPECTION CONFIRMED NO WINGTIP DAMAGE. REGARDLESS OF THE UNEVENTFUL OUTCOME, I TEND TO PONDER FLYING EVENTS LONG AFTER THEY ARE OVER -- I THINK MOST OF US DO. WE TRY TO LEARN FROM EACH TRIP, EVENTFUL OR NOT. CONCLUSION: A FIRM (NOT HARD) LNDG, RESULTING IN IMMEDIATE GND SPOILERS DEPLOYMENT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE PREVENTED THE WING ROCK. THIS APCH REQUIRED A LOT OF WORK ALL THE WAY TO THE GND BUT THE TOUCHDOWN WAS TOO GENTLE (I GUESS I WORKED TOO HARD). I HAVE A LOT OF TIME IN THIS ACFT. I AM STILL TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT ALL THE TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.