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Attributes | |
ACN | 368540 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bty airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tracon : bos |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 8400 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 368540 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 368704 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During climb out through FL240, ZLA instructed us to turn left to heading 275 degrees. Our heading was 300 degrees. We told ZLA we were unable to comply with turn instruction as there was WX in that direction. The controller then told us to descend to FL230. At that time we stopped our climb and descended to FL230. The controller advised us to contact the center on the landline as a loss of separation possibly occurred. Supplemental information from acn 368704: apparently there was another aircraft to our right descending. After the controller found out we couldn't turn to the left, I wonder why this aircraft was not turned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 CLBING OUT OF LAS WAS GIVEN A TURN FOR TFC AND REFUSED THE CLRNC DUE TO A WX CELL. THE ARTCC RADAR CTLR THEN DSNDED THE B737 AND ADVISED HIM TO CALL THE ARTCC DUE TO A POSSIBLE LOSS OF SEPARATION.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT THROUGH FL240, ZLA INSTRUCTED US TO TURN L TO HDG 275 DEGS. OUR HDG WAS 300 DEGS. WE TOLD ZLA WE WERE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH TURN INSTRUCTION AS THERE WAS WX IN THAT DIRECTION. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO DSND TO FL230. AT THAT TIME WE STOPPED OUR CLB AND DSNDED TO FL230. THE CTLR ADVISED US TO CONTACT THE CTR ON THE LANDLINE AS A LOSS OF SEPARATION POSSIBLY OCCURRED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 368704: APPARENTLY THERE WAS ANOTHER ACFT TO OUR R DSNDING. AFTER THE CTLR FOUND OUT WE COULDN'T TURN TO THE L, I WONDER WHY THIS ACFT WAS NOT TURNED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.