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Attributes | |
ACN | 368650 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Duke 60 |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 368650 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was first officer on air carrier X flight number from cos to las. The captain was xx. Aircraft was a MD83 inbound to las from cos. ZLA cleared us to descend to 17000 ft direct to crowe intersection. After we leveled at 17000 ft we asked for clearance to deviate right of course for WX. The request was approved. Both pilots understood it to mean that after clear of WX we were to comply with our last clearance since no assigned heading was given. (Our last clearance to crowe.) once clear of the initial WX we turned left to go direct to crowe and to avoid other WX. During this time we maintained our assigned altitude of 17000 ft. The autoplt was engaged with the first officer flying. Earlier the controller had advised us of a duke aircraft which was at 16000 ft IMC. The controller never assigned a heading up to this time as we proceeded back to crowe intersection. We were then cleared to 11000 ft. As we passed 14500 ft the controller asked if we had turned left which we acknowledged. The controller then assigned a heading of 330 degrees and said we may have conflicted with the duke aircraft. This was at approximately XA43 Z daylight hours with a few or more WX cells in the immediate area. The aircraft TCASII warning system never went off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE FLC OF A MD83 WERE DEVIATING AROUND WX UNDER ATC CONCURRENCE WITH NO ASSIGNED HEADING OR TRACK, LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION OCCURRED WITH A BEECH, BE60, DUKE.
Narrative: I WAS FO ON ACR X FLT NUMBER FROM COS TO LAS. THE CAPT WAS XX. ACFT WAS A MD83 INBOUND TO LAS FROM COS. ZLA CLRED US TO DSND TO 17000 FT DIRECT TO CROWE INTXN. AFTER WE LEVELED AT 17000 FT WE ASKED FOR CLRNC TO DEVIATE R OF COURSE FOR WX. THE REQUEST WAS APPROVED. BOTH PLTS UNDERSTOOD IT TO MEAN THAT AFTER CLR OF WX WE WERE TO COMPLY WITH OUR LAST CLRNC SINCE NO ASSIGNED HEADING WAS GIVEN. (OUR LAST CLRNC TO CROWE.) ONCE CLR OF THE INITIAL WX WE TURNED L TO GO DIRECT TO CROWE AND TO AVOID OTHER WX. DURING THIS TIME WE MAINTAINED OUR ASSIGNED ALT OF 17000 FT. THE AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED WITH THE FO FLYING. EARLIER THE CTLR HAD ADVISED US OF A DUKE ACFT WHICH WAS AT 16000 FT IMC. THE CTLR NEVER ASSIGNED A HEADING UP TO THIS TIME AS WE PROCEEDED BACK TO CROWE INTXN. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO 11000 FT. AS WE PASSED 14500 FT THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD TURNED L WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGED. THE CTLR THEN ASSIGNED A HDG OF 330 DEGS AND SAID WE MAY HAVE CONFLICTED WITH THE DUKE ACFT. THIS WAS AT APPROX XA43 Z DAYLIGHT HRS WITH A FEW OR MORE WX CELLS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. THE ACFT TCASII WARNING SYS NEVER WENT OFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.