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Attributes | |
ACN | 368771 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 42 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 42 |
ASRS Report | 368771 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 30R stl, tower instructed us to turn off on the new high speed taxiway. After turn off I contacted ground control for taxi instructions. They called back asking for the gate number we were going to. I told them and they called back instructing us to hold short of runway 30L on taxiway B. During this time the captain had control of the aircraft. He was taxiing quite fast and never stopped the aircraft. The captain told me he was anticipating to cross runway 30L and that was the reason he kept his speed up. When I repeated the clearance to hold short of runway 30L at taxiway B, the captain was already on taxiway B and still moving at a normal taxi rate towards runway 30L. He never heard the hold short instructions or my readback. Upon realizing this, I urgently told him to 'stop, stop, we're not cleared across runway 30L.' the captain then hit the brakes stopping the aircraft with the nose of the aircraft sticking past the hold short line by about 1-2 ft. The ground controller then asked if we were past the hold short line, and by the captain's judgement we were, so the tower had to issue go around instructions to an aircraft on final approach. We were then cleared to cross runway 30L to the gate. Factors contributing to this incident were: 1) me, the first officer, not reporting the gate number to ground control upon initial call up. 2) the captain taxiing too fast and onto taxiway B without a clearance. 3) the captain anticipating to cross runway 30L to the gate and thus blocking out the hold short instructions or the captain not realizing where runway 30L was and didn't realize he was approaching it. 4) ground control giving us this instruction at the last min, ie: they hesitated until we were right up on runway 30L before telling us to hold short. Even if the captain heard the instruction the first time, he would still have to stop abruptly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ACFT TAXIING AFTER LNDG INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY FOR LNDG TFC. CAPT EITHER DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS OR DIDN'T HEAR HOLD SHORT CLRNC, BUT RPTR FO HAD TO URGENTLY HAVE HIM STOP. ACFT WAS ACROSS HOLD SHORT LINE AND TWR HAD TO HAVE LNDG TFC GAR.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 30R STL, TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN OFF ON THE NEW HIGH SPD TXWY. AFTER TURN OFF I CONTACTED GND CTL FOR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS. THEY CALLED BACK ASKING FOR THE GATE NUMBER WE WERE GOING TO. I TOLD THEM AND THEY CALLED BACK INSTRUCTING US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 30L ON TXWY B. DURING THIS TIME THE CAPT HAD CTL OF THE ACFT. HE WAS TAXIING QUITE FAST AND NEVER STOPPED THE ACFT. THE CAPT TOLD ME HE WAS ANTICIPATING TO CROSS RWY 30L AND THAT WAS THE REASON HE KEPT HIS SPD UP. WHEN I REPEATED THE CLRNC TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 30L AT TXWY B, THE CAPT WAS ALREADY ON TXWY B AND STILL MOVING AT A NORMAL TAXI RATE TOWARDS RWY 30L. HE NEVER HEARD THE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS OR MY READBACK. UPON REALIZING THIS, I URGENTLY TOLD HIM TO 'STOP, STOP, WE'RE NOT CLRED ACROSS RWY 30L.' THE CAPT THEN HIT THE BRAKES STOPPING THE ACFT WITH THE NOSE OF THE ACFT STICKING PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE BY ABOUT 1-2 FT. THE GND CTLR THEN ASKED IF WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE, AND BY THE CAPT'S JUDGEMENT WE WERE, SO THE TWR HAD TO ISSUE GAR INSTRUCTIONS TO AN ACFT ON FINAL APCH. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO CROSS RWY 30L TO THE GATE. FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS INCIDENT WERE: 1) ME, THE FO, NOT RPTING THE GATE NUMBER TO GND CTL UPON INITIAL CALL UP. 2) THE CAPT TAXIING TOO FAST AND ONTO TXWY B WITHOUT A CLRNC. 3) THE CAPT ANTICIPATING TO CROSS RWY 30L TO THE GATE AND THUS BLOCKING OUT THE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS OR THE CAPT NOT REALIZING WHERE RWY 30L WAS AND DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS APCHING IT. 4) GND CTL GIVING US THIS INSTRUCTION AT THE LAST MIN, IE: THEY HESITATED UNTIL WE WERE RIGHT UP ON RWY 30L BEFORE TELLING US TO HOLD SHORT. EVEN IF THE CAPT HEARD THE INSTRUCTION THE FIRST TIME, HE WOULD STILL HAVE TO STOP ABRUPTLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.