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Attributes | |
ACN | 369378 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 369378 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 369374 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
After receiving our load numbers from bos operations, the first officer completed the weight and balance manifest. The center of gravity calculator indicated that the center of gravity was at the aft limit. The bos station is notorious for overweight bags and improper loading of the aircraft. Since the ramp never informed us of a tailstand stuck condition, we had no reason to offload payload. (We later found out that they had to really kick at the tailstand to free it.) sensing that aircraft had an unusual aft center of gravity condition, I elected to have one of our commuting flight attendants occupy the cockpit jump seat as a safety measure and to move the center of gravity a bit more forward from the aft limit. Using an admission to the cockpit section of our flight manual for unusual or emergency sits, I justified placing the flight attendant in the jumpseat. I considered this aft center of gravity as unusual since it had only been the third time it has occurred to me on this aircraft type. (I was later informed that this may be a possible far violation despite our flight manual being poorly written.) the flight was uneventful, with no ctlability problems. Upon arriving at the ramp in jfk, we were advised that the cargo door was jammed. The ramp had notified maintenance, they were waiting at the bottom of steps as the aircraft was deplaned. Normal procedure with a stuck cargo door is to use an auxiliary tailstand. This was not done. After all the passenger were off the airplane, myself and the first officer, maintenance went aft through the cabin to access the cargo compartment via the blow out door. At which time the aircraft slammed down on its tail. Because of the incident, all the bags were weighed and each found to be about 20 pounds over our estimated bag weights. Furthermore, the actual weight in the aft cargo compartment was 583 pounds over its limit. The center of gravity, using the actual weights, was well aft of the aft limit. The estimated bag weight program should be abolished and only actual weights should be used when loading this aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHEN A SAAB, SF340, WAS BOARDED BY MAINT PERSONNEL AFTER PARKING TO OPEN A STUCK AFT BAGGAGE COMPARTMENT, THE ACFT FELL DOWN ON ITS TAIL CONE. THE TAIL STAND HAD NOT BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND THE BAGGAGE LOAD WAS FOUND TO EXCEED THE CARGO COMPARTMENT WT LIMITATION. SINCE THE ACTUAL WT WAS MORE THAN THE FLC HAD USED IN COMPUTING THE WT AND BAL, THE ACFT CTR OF GRAVITY LIMITS HAD BEEN EXCEEDED DURING THE PREVIOUS FLT.
Narrative: AFTER RECEIVING OUR LOAD NUMBERS FROM BOS OPS, THE FO COMPLETED THE WT AND BAL MANIFEST. THE CTR OF GRAVITY CALCULATOR INDICATED THAT THE CTR OF GRAVITY WAS AT THE AFT LIMIT. THE BOS STATION IS NOTORIOUS FOR OVERWT BAGS AND IMPROPER LOADING OF THE ACFT. SINCE THE RAMP NEVER INFORMED US OF A TAILSTAND STUCK CONDITION, WE HAD NO REASON TO OFFLOAD PAYLOAD. (WE LATER FOUND OUT THAT THEY HAD TO REALLY KICK AT THE TAILSTAND TO FREE IT.) SENSING THAT ACFT HAD AN UNUSUAL AFT CTR OF GRAVITY CONDITION, I ELECTED TO HAVE ONE OF OUR COMMUTING FLT ATTENDANTS OCCUPY THE COCKPIT JUMP SEAT AS A SAFETY MEASURE AND TO MOVE THE CTR OF GRAVITY A BIT MORE FORWARD FROM THE AFT LIMIT. USING AN ADMISSION TO THE COCKPIT SECTION OF OUR FLT MANUAL FOR UNUSUAL OR EMER SITS, I JUSTIFIED PLACING THE FLT ATTENDANT IN THE JUMPSEAT. I CONSIDERED THIS AFT CTR OF GRAVITY AS UNUSUAL SINCE IT HAD ONLY BEEN THE THIRD TIME IT HAS OCCURRED TO ME ON THIS ACFT TYPE. (I WAS LATER INFORMED THAT THIS MAY BE A POSSIBLE FAR VIOLATION DESPITE OUR FLT MANUAL BEING POORLY WRITTEN.) THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL, WITH NO CTLABILITY PROBS. UPON ARRIVING AT THE RAMP IN JFK, WE WERE ADVISED THAT THE CARGO DOOR WAS JAMMED. THE RAMP HAD NOTIFIED MAINT, THEY WERE WAITING AT THE BOTTOM OF STEPS AS THE ACFT WAS DEPLANED. NORMAL PROC WITH A STUCK CARGO DOOR IS TO USE AN AUX TAILSTAND. THIS WAS NOT DONE. AFTER ALL THE PAX WERE OFF THE AIRPLANE, MYSELF AND THE FO, MAINT WENT AFT THROUGH THE CABIN TO ACCESS THE CARGO COMPARTMENT VIA THE BLOW OUT DOOR. AT WHICH TIME THE ACFT SLAMMED DOWN ON ITS TAIL. BECAUSE OF THE INCIDENT, ALL THE BAGS WERE WEIGHED AND EACH FOUND TO BE ABOUT 20 LBS OVER OUR ESTIMATED BAG WTS. FURTHERMORE, THE ACTUAL WT IN THE AFT CARGO COMPARTMENT WAS 583 LBS OVER ITS LIMIT. THE CTR OF GRAVITY, USING THE ACTUAL WTS, WAS WELL AFT OF THE AFT LIMIT. THE ESTIMATED BAG WT PROGRAM SHOULD BE ABOLISHED AND ONLY ACTUAL WTS SHOULD BE USED WHEN LOADING THIS ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.