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Attributes | |
ACN | 369946 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 15700 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 369946 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 369950 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
We arrived in atl to transit to another flight. Our arrival was late due to WX, so our transit time was only 27 mins for an on-time departure to lga. We had to go from one concourse to another, distant, concourse and arrived at the gate, with boarding in progress, approximately 10 mins before scheduled departure. The aircraft had not flown yet that day, which further rushed things because it required a full preflight. We checked the logbook and found a maintenance carry-over on the #1 fuel flow gauge showing 440 pounds per hour with engine not running. We checked the MEL for special procedures, and continued the preflight to depart the gate only 5 mins late. The flight was normal. Upon arrival lga, maintenance met us at the gate and said the maintenance carry-over was expired when we left atl. We had quickly checked the MEL, but not the expiration date which was 8 hours prior to our flight. The maintenance people signed off the maintenance carry-over in lga as operations check normal on ground. There was '0' fuel flow for us on ground in atl and for maintenance in lga. We learned by contact with maintenance that the item had been fixed in atl, but the maintenance carry-over was not cleared from the book when the aircraft airworthiness was signed. The dispatcher had removed the maintenance carry-over note from the remarks section of the flight plan because he could not generate the flight plan with it there and he was told by maintenance that it was cleared. We were left to fly technically illegally because the reminder was not on the flight plan, maintenance did not complete the paperwork, and we did not look closely enough at the maintenance carry-over expiration date which required checking another section of the MEL. We were the last people to get a chance to catch the error and we were rushed trying to do a good job with a quick transit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE ACR FLC OF AN MLG DEPARTS WITH AN IMPROPER MAINT SIGNOFF IN THEIR LOGBOOK. THE WORK HAD BEEN DONE BUT THE MAINT CARRY-OVER HAD NOT BEEN REMOVED AND HAD INSTEAD EXPIRED BEFORE THE FLC ARRIVED AT THE ACFT.
Narrative: WE ARRIVED IN ATL TO TRANSIT TO ANOTHER FLT. OUR ARR WAS LATE DUE TO WX, SO OUR TRANSIT TIME WAS ONLY 27 MINS FOR AN ON-TIME DEP TO LGA. WE HAD TO GO FROM ONE CONCOURSE TO ANOTHER, DISTANT, CONCOURSE AND ARRIVED AT THE GATE, WITH BOARDING IN PROGRESS, APPROX 10 MINS BEFORE SCHEDULED DEP. THE ACFT HAD NOT FLOWN YET THAT DAY, WHICH FURTHER RUSHED THINGS BECAUSE IT REQUIRED A FULL PREFLT. WE CHKED THE LOGBOOK AND FOUND A MAINT CARRY-OVER ON THE #1 FUEL FLOW GAUGE SHOWING 440 LBS PER HR WITH ENG NOT RUNNING. WE CHKED THE MEL FOR SPECIAL PROCS, AND CONTINUED THE PREFLT TO DEPART THE GATE ONLY 5 MINS LATE. THE FLT WAS NORMAL. UPON ARR LGA, MAINT MET US AT THE GATE AND SAID THE MAINT CARRY-OVER WAS EXPIRED WHEN WE LEFT ATL. WE HAD QUICKLY CHKED THE MEL, BUT NOT THE EXPIRATION DATE WHICH WAS 8 HRS PRIOR TO OUR FLT. THE MAINT PEOPLE SIGNED OFF THE MAINT CARRY-OVER IN LGA AS OPS CHK NORMAL ON GND. THERE WAS '0' FUEL FLOW FOR US ON GND IN ATL AND FOR MAINT IN LGA. WE LEARNED BY CONTACT WITH MAINT THAT THE ITEM HAD BEEN FIXED IN ATL, BUT THE MAINT CARRY-OVER WAS NOT CLRED FROM THE BOOK WHEN THE ACFT AIRWORTHINESS WAS SIGNED. THE DISPATCHER HAD REMOVED THE MAINT CARRY-OVER NOTE FROM THE REMARKS SECTION OF THE FLT PLAN BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GENERATE THE FLT PLAN WITH IT THERE AND HE WAS TOLD BY MAINT THAT IT WAS CLRED. WE WERE LEFT TO FLY TECHNICALLY ILLEGALLY BECAUSE THE REMINDER WAS NOT ON THE FLT PLAN, MAINT DID NOT COMPLETE THE PAPERWORK, AND WE DID NOT LOOK CLOSELY ENOUGH AT THE MAINT CARRY-OVER EXPIRATION DATE WHICH REQUIRED CHKING ANOTHER SECTION OF THE MEL. WE WERE THE LAST PEOPLE TO GET A CHANCE TO CATCH THE ERROR AND WE WERE RUSHED TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB WITH A QUICK TRANSIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.