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An small aircraft doing touch-and-goes was unhappy with the spacing between his aircraft and one that was entering the downwind leg. CFI in the small aircraft made unwarranted comments to the tower and allegedly turned the tower controller in on the FAA hotline.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 371319 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bev |
| State Reference | MA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bev |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 15 |
| ASRS Report | 371319 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A pilot/instructor seems to be having problems understanding the rules in a VFR environment. On 1 occasion, mar/xa/97, this pilot/instructor took off on a runway without a takeoff clearance and flew over 2 aircraft that were taxiing on that runway. Last week this pilot/instructor was doing touch-and-goes with a student making left traffic to a runway. Another aircraft was entering the pattern on the left side and had the touch-and- go traffic in sight. The pilot/instructor made a comment on the frequency and broke out of the pattern. The spacing between the 2 aircraft was more than needed but the aircraft felt that the traffic was too close. This pilot/instructor reported this last incident to the aviation safety hotline. The airspace is VFR and if this pilot/instructor is teaching students this type of flying there is a question about safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA DOING TOUCH-AND-GOES WAS UNHAPPY WITH THE SPACING BTWN HIS ACFT AND ONE THAT WAS ENTERING THE DOWNWIND LEG. CFI IN THE SMA MADE UNWARRANTED COMMENTS TO THE TWR AND ALLEGEDLY TURNED THE TWR CTLR IN ON THE FAA HOTLINE.
Narrative: A PLT/INSTRUCTOR SEEMS TO BE HAVING PROBS UNDERSTANDING THE RULES IN A VFR ENVIRONMENT. ON 1 OCCASION, MAR/XA/97, THIS PLT/INSTRUCTOR TOOK OFF ON A RWY WITHOUT A TKOF CLRNC AND FLEW OVER 2 ACFT THAT WERE TAXIING ON THAT RWY. LAST WK THIS PLT/INSTRUCTOR WAS DOING TOUCH-AND-GOES WITH A STUDENT MAKING L TFC TO A RWY. ANOTHER ACFT WAS ENTERING THE PATTERN ON THE L SIDE AND HAD THE TOUCH-AND- GO TFC IN SIGHT. THE PLT/INSTRUCTOR MADE A COMMENT ON THE FREQ AND BROKE OUT OF THE PATTERN. THE SPACING BTWN THE 2 ACFT WAS MORE THAN NEEDED BUT THE ACFT FELT THAT THE TFC WAS TOO CLOSE. THIS PLT/INSTRUCTOR RPTED THIS LAST INCIDENT TO THE AVIATION SAFETY HOTLINE. THE AIRSPACE IS VFR AND IF THIS PLT/INSTRUCTOR IS TEACHING STUDENTS THIS TYPE OF FLYING THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.