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Attributes | |
ACN | 371430 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : dfw tower : bfi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 371430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 371431 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were at 5000 ft when the controller cleared us for the visual approach and to maintain 180 KTS or greater. The PF called for gear down so that a high rate of descent could be maintained until we were established on a 3 degree profile. This also prevented the extension of flaps due to speed limitations which also delayed the execution of landing checks and checklists. The landing checklist was accomplished at 1000 ft with maximum attention directed towards the landing and an ATR lined up for takeoff on runway 13L. We were landing on runway 17L, dfw, a crossing runway. Contributing factors were: delay of checklists, high close in base turn to final, and an aircraft ready for takeoff on a crossing runway. Possible corrective actions are in not accepting approach clearance unless you are reasonably sure that aircraft will be stabilized by 2000 ft, and checklists completed by 1500 to 1000 ft. Supplemental information from acn 371431: approach never instructed us to contact tower and we failed to do so resulting in a landing without clearance on runway 17L at dfw. We did not recognize our error until we turned off the runway and noticed we were still on approach control frequency. We were left high on the visual approach resulting in crew concentration on getting down with a stabilized approach. The crew was well rested on the first leg of the day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER TWIN LANDS WITHOUT CLRNC AT DFW. FLC WAS DISTRACTED WITH STEEP APCH AND GND HOLDING TFC ON ANOTHER RWY. APCH CTLR FAILED TO HAND THEM OFF TO TWR.
Narrative: WE WERE AT 5000 FT WHEN THE CTLR CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH AND TO MAINTAIN 180 KTS OR GREATER. THE PF CALLED FOR GEAR DOWN SO THAT A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT COULD BE MAINTAINED UNTIL WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON A 3 DEG PROFILE. THIS ALSO PREVENTED THE EXTENSION OF FLAPS DUE TO SPD LIMITATIONS WHICH ALSO DELAYED THE EXECUTION OF LNDG CHKS AND CHKLISTS. THE LNDG CHKLIST WAS ACCOMPLISHED AT 1000 FT WITH MAX ATTN DIRECTED TOWARDS THE LNDG AND AN ATR LINED UP FOR TKOF ON RWY 13L. WE WERE LNDG ON RWY 17L, DFW, A XING RWY. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE: DELAY OF CHKLISTS, HIGH CLOSE IN BASE TURN TO FINAL, AND AN ACFT READY FOR TKOF ON A XING RWY. POSSIBLE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ARE IN NOT ACCEPTING APCH CLRNC UNLESS YOU ARE REASONABLY SURE THAT ACFT WILL BE STABILIZED BY 2000 FT, AND CHKLISTS COMPLETED BY 1500 TO 1000 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 371431: APCH NEVER INSTRUCTED US TO CONTACT TWR AND WE FAILED TO DO SO RESULTING IN A LNDG WITHOUT CLRNC ON RWY 17L AT DFW. WE DID NOT RECOGNIZE OUR ERROR UNTIL WE TURNED OFF THE RWY AND NOTICED WE WERE STILL ON APCH CTL FREQ. WE WERE LEFT HIGH ON THE VISUAL APCH RESULTING IN CREW CONCENTRATION ON GETTING DOWN WITH A STABILIZED APCH. THE CREW WAS WELL RESTED ON THE FIRST LEG OF THE DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.