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Widebody transport requested an alternate taxi route due to company request and gate assignment. It was granted but with a 'give way' and a 'use caution' regarding an outbound commuter flight. Report implies a later feedback from air carrier Y that could be a ground incident or jet blast encounter incident. Ground controller couldn't recall clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 371520 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 371520 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 371516 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Cleared runway 13L jfk with ATC specific clearance from local to use runway 22R, taxiway F. Cleared by jfk ground into ramp by taxiway F. Stated unable due to traffic. Requested left taxiway a to taxiway G inbound. So cleared with caution for outbound traffic. Several days later ground controller did not remember this chat. Supplemental information from acn 371516: I called the flight control tower with our 'on' time and they confirmed gate but wanted us to come on taxiway G. I called ground with flight control's request. The ground controller told us to turn left on taxiway a, give way to a commuter aircraft outbound, on taxiway G to the ramp. We proceeded as cleared.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB REQUESTED AN ALTERNATE TAXI RTE DUE TO COMPANY REQUEST AND GATE ASSIGNMENT. IT WAS GRANTED BUT WITH A 'GIVE WAY' AND A 'USE CAUTION' REGARDING AN OUTBOUND COMMUTER FLT. RPT IMPLIES A LATER FEEDBACK FROM ACR Y THAT COULD BE A GND INCIDENT OR JET BLAST ENCOUNTER INCIDENT. GND CTLR COULDN'T RECALL CLRNC.
Narrative: CLRED RWY 13L JFK WITH ATC SPECIFIC CLRNC FROM LCL TO USE RWY 22R, TXWY F. CLRED BY JFK GND INTO RAMP BY TXWY F. STATED UNABLE DUE TO TFC. REQUESTED L TXWY A TO TXWY G INBOUND. SO CLRED WITH CAUTION FOR OUTBOUND TFC. SEVERAL DAYS LATER GND CTLR DID NOT REMEMBER THIS CHAT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 371516: I CALLED THE FLT CTL TWR WITH OUR 'ON' TIME AND THEY CONFIRMED GATE BUT WANTED US TO COME ON TXWY G. I CALLED GND WITH FLT CTL'S REQUEST. THE GND CTLR TOLD US TO TURN L ON TXWY A, GIVE WAY TO A COMMUTER ACFT OUTBOUND, ON TXWY G TO THE RAMP. WE PROCEEDED AS CLRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.