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Attributes | |
ACN | 371522 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : oak |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : oak |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4900 flight time type : 280 |
ASRS Report | 371522 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
While descending into sfo, we were cleared to 16000 ft. We continued on the course assigned, and next received instructions from the controller to expedite the descent through 11000 ft. We asked him what altitude he wanted us at, that we were assigned 16000 ft, and his reply was to point out B737 traffic crossing right to left. He put us in a 360 degree turn and shortly thereafter, another controller took over. No one ever said whether there was a conflict and I believe someone else may have blocked an altitude change, due to the volume of aircraft on the frequency and number of previous occurrences of blocked xmissions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR JET GIVEN AN EXPEDITED CLRNC FOR DSCNT THROUGH 11000 FT. IT WAS AT 16000 FT AND HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY DSCNT CLRNC. ARTCC RADAR CTLR HAD XING TFC SEPARATION BASED UPON THAT ORIGINAL CLRNC. LOSS OF SEPARATION OCCURRED. RPTR STATES THAT FREQ CONGESTION BLOCKED RECEPTION.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING INTO SFO, WE WERE CLRED TO 16000 FT. WE CONTINUED ON THE COURSE ASSIGNED, AND NEXT RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE CTLR TO EXPEDITE THE DSCNT THROUGH 11000 FT. WE ASKED HIM WHAT ALT HE WANTED US AT, THAT WE WERE ASSIGNED 16000 FT, AND HIS REPLY WAS TO POINT OUT B737 TFC XING R TO L. HE PUT US IN A 360 DEG TURN AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, ANOTHER CTLR TOOK OVER. NO ONE EVER SAID WHETHER THERE WAS A CONFLICT AND I BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE MAY HAVE BLOCKED AN ALT CHANGE, DUE TO THE VOLUME OF ACFT ON THE FREQ AND NUMBER OF PREVIOUS OCCURRENCES OF BLOCKED XMISSIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.