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ARTCC advised the flight crew of a british aerospace, HS25, that they were off course approximately 8 mi and vectored them back to the intended airway route. Flight crew found that they had used the wrong VOR for routing guidance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 372410 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ard |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mem |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 1-600 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v276 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 372410 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a flight from bed to pne we were cleared over manta intersection V276 ard VOR direct pne. Near manta intersection we were given several radar vectors for spacing/traffic. Eventually we were given a heading to intercept V276 to ard VOR direct pne. We tuned in ard VOR and set in the 289 degree radial to ard and flew the given heading for the intercept. In a few mins the controller called and told us we were north of course by 8 mi. We rechked our navigation setup and realized we should have been tuned to the 302 degree radial of rbv VOR, which is between manta intersection and ard VOR. I would like to see more positive cooperation between controllers and pilots. The controller could have given us a call when we were 2 or 3 mi off course and gotten us back on track before being past the limits of the airway. It would make for a less stressful day for all of us. It appears that more and more, in some sectors of the united states, there is a lack of cooperation between controllers and pilots. On the positive side I find that the boston controllers are very helpful and cooperative. I would like to see some of that nation-wide.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC ADVISED THE FLC OF A BRITISH AEROSPACE, HS25, THAT THEY WERE OFF COURSE APPROX 8 MI AND VECTORED THEM BACK TO THE INTENDED AIRWAY RTE. FLC FOUND THAT THEY HAD USED THE WRONG VOR FOR ROUTING GUIDANCE.
Narrative: ON A FLT FROM BED TO PNE WE WERE CLRED OVER MANTA INTXN V276 ARD VOR DIRECT PNE. NEAR MANTA INTXN WE WERE GIVEN SEVERAL RADAR VECTORS FOR SPACING/TFC. EVENTUALLY WE WERE GIVEN A HDG TO INTERCEPT V276 TO ARD VOR DIRECT PNE. WE TUNED IN ARD VOR AND SET IN THE 289 DEG RADIAL TO ARD AND FLEW THE GIVEN HDG FOR THE INTERCEPT. IN A FEW MINS THE CTLR CALLED AND TOLD US WE WERE N OF COURSE BY 8 MI. WE RECHKED OUR NAV SETUP AND REALIZED WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TUNED TO THE 302 DEG RADIAL OF RBV VOR, WHICH IS BTWN MANTA INTXN AND ARD VOR. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE POSITIVE COOPERATION BTWN CTLRS AND PLTS. THE CTLR COULD HAVE GIVEN US A CALL WHEN WE WERE 2 OR 3 MI OFF COURSE AND GOTTEN US BACK ON TRACK BEFORE BEING PAST THE LIMITS OF THE AIRWAY. IT WOULD MAKE FOR A LESS STRESSFUL DAY FOR ALL OF US. IT APPEARS THAT MORE AND MORE, IN SOME SECTORS OF THE UNITED STATES, THERE IS A LACK OF COOPERATION BTWN CTLRS AND PLTS. ON THE POSITIVE SIDE I FIND THAT THE BOSTON CTLRS ARE VERY HELPFUL AND COOPERATIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT NATION-WIDE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.