Cpr jet is followed down from 16000 ft to 14000 ft in his evasive maneuver by the C500 type that had...

Attributes
ACN	373219
Time
Date	199707
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : dbl airport : ase
State Reference	CO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 16000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ase
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other cruise other other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	descent other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 11400 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	373219
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 3000 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation Operational Error

Narrative:

At approximately XA48Z we made a visual approach to runway 15 at ase. Tower advised winds gusting over 30 KTS. We (crew) decided to abort the approach and hold. ATC issued holding instructions, hold northwest, as published at dbl, 16000 ft. We programmed the FMS for hold. Unfortunately we were too close and it did not activate. As we passed dbl heading to the northeast, we heard a CE500-560 cancel his IFR. Shortly after that (seconds), we received a TA on our TCASII. The intruder aircraft was at 7 O'clock position and descending. We received the RA seconds later to descend. The co-captain said turn right as I executed the descent. Unfortunately this paralleled us with the citation. I believe he stated this to stay within the boundaries of our holding pattern. We continued through 15000 ft with the citation following us very closely behind (aspen approach confirmed later 1/2 mi and 300 ft). We were unable to get this aircraft off of our tail. The RA continued at 15000 ft (descend, descend, increase rate) until we reached 14000 ft. At 14000 ft, clear of conflict. During the RA we heard the citation tell approach he had us in sight. Regardless, the crew felt the RA required us to execute the maneuver, since we did not have him in sight. He followed us from 16000 ft to 14000 ft, 300 ft above us as we descended. I feel that the citation pilot was playing CAT and mouse with our aircraft. Aspen approach was relieved of separation when he stated he had us in sight. Unfortunately they never advised us of the traffic. This citation pilot, even though he had us in sight, should have never passed, followed us so closely behind. We plan on filing a near miss with aspen approach, so the FAA can investigate how close he followed us. I spoke to this pilot on the ground at ase, and he did not see any problem with his following us. I should note this pilot was an owner operator. This pilot obviously does not understand TCASII considerations.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CPR JET IS FOLLOWED DOWN FROM 16000 FT TO 14000 FT IN HIS EVASIVE MANEUVER BY THE C500 TYPE THAT HAD INITIALLY ACTIVATED THE TCASII. ACFT X HAD BEEN IN A HOLD AND ACFT Y HAD JUST CANCELED IFR. NO TA FROM APCH CTLR.

Narrative: AT APPROX XA48Z WE MADE A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 15 AT ASE. TWR ADVISED WINDS GUSTING OVER 30 KTS. WE (CREW) DECIDED TO ABORT THE APCH AND HOLD. ATC ISSUED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS, HOLD NW, AS PUBLISHED AT DBL, 16000 FT. WE PROGRAMMED THE FMS FOR HOLD. UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE TOO CLOSE AND IT DID NOT ACTIVATE. AS WE PASSED DBL HDG TO THE NE, WE HEARD A CE500-560 CANCEL HIS IFR. SHORTLY AFTER THAT (SECONDS), WE RECEIVED A TA ON OUR TCASII. THE INTRUDER ACFT WAS AT 7 O'CLOCK POS AND DSNDING. WE RECEIVED THE RA SECONDS LATER TO DSND. THE CO-CAPT SAID TURN R AS I EXECUTED THE DSCNT. UNFORTUNATELY THIS PARALLELED US WITH THE CITATION. I BELIEVE HE STATED THIS TO STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR HOLDING PATTERN. WE CONTINUED THROUGH 15000 FT WITH THE CITATION FOLLOWING US VERY CLOSELY BEHIND (ASPEN APCH CONFIRMED LATER 1/2 MI AND 300 FT). WE WERE UNABLE TO GET THIS ACFT OFF OF OUR TAIL. THE RA CONTINUED AT 15000 FT (DSND, DSND, INCREASE RATE) UNTIL WE REACHED 14000 FT. AT 14000 FT, CLR OF CONFLICT. DURING THE RA WE HEARD THE CITATION TELL APCH HE HAD US IN SIGHT. REGARDLESS, THE CREW FELT THE RA REQUIRED US TO EXECUTE THE MANEUVER, SINCE WE DID NOT HAVE HIM IN SIGHT. HE FOLLOWED US FROM 16000 FT TO 14000 FT, 300 FT ABOVE US AS WE DSNDED. I FEEL THAT THE CITATION PLT WAS PLAYING CAT AND MOUSE WITH OUR ACFT. ASPEN APCH WAS RELIEVED OF SEPARATION WHEN HE STATED HE HAD US IN SIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY THEY NEVER ADVISED US OF THE TFC. THIS CITATION PLT, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD US IN SIGHT, SHOULD HAVE NEVER PASSED, FOLLOWED US SO CLOSELY BEHIND. WE PLAN ON FILING A NEAR MISS WITH ASPEN APCH, SO THE FAA CAN INVESTIGATE HOW CLOSE HE FOLLOWED US. I SPOKE TO THIS PLT ON THE GND AT ASE, AND HE DID NOT SEE ANY PROB WITH HIS FOLLOWING US. I SHOULD NOTE THIS PLT WAS AN OWNER OPERATOR. THIS PLT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND TCASII CONSIDERATIONS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Cpr jet is followed down from 16000 ft to 14000 ft in his evasive maneuver by the C500 type that had initially activated the TCASII. Aircraft X had been in a hold and aircraft Y had just canceled IFR. No TA from approach controller.