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Attributes | |
ACN | 373530 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zkc |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35500 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Learjet 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 373530 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Assigned block FL410-370 for high altitude stall characteristic evaluation. Aircraft was loaded to aft center of gravity, heavy weight operation test condition requirements. Prior review of projected performance capability indicated an adequate margin for recovery in the block should be available. Stall was initiated from a trim speed of 1.3 vsi at approximately FL400. Recovery was initiated with maximum thrust at pushers activation at an approximately altitude of FL397. At FL390 it became apparent the aircraft would not accelerate to permit level flight at FL370. The controller was immediately advised of the situation. He stated we had to maintain FL370 to which we responded we were unable to maintain level flight. He again said we could not descend below FL370. We reported again we were unable to maintain level flight. By this point we were descending below FL370 at a rate of approximately 100-200 FPM. The controller then gave us a 90 degree turn (which further made the altitude issue more difficult). Later he told us we could maintain our current altitude (then FL355) when allowed us to accelerate and resume normal flight. The controller indicated the reason we couldn't descend because of other traffic. After all was done and we had returned to our block, he advised us on radio he would process as a 'possible pilot deviation.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LR35 ACFT ON TEST FLT FOR STALL CHARACTERISTICS, FLC REQUESTED AND RECEIVED A BLOCK ALT, BUT DURING STALL LOST MORE ALT THAN THE BLOCK. AFTER FLC REQUESTED LOWER ALT CTLR COULDN'T APPROVE DUE TO TFC, BUT RPTR ACFT HAD TO DSND DUE TO LOW AIRSPD.
Narrative: ASSIGNED BLOCK FL410-370 FOR HIGH ALT STALL CHARACTERISTIC EVALUATION. ACFT WAS LOADED TO AFT CTR OF GRAVITY, HVY WT OP TEST CONDITION REQUIREMENTS. PRIOR REVIEW OF PROJECTED PERFORMANCE CAPABILITY INDICATED AN ADEQUATE MARGIN FOR RECOVERY IN THE BLOCK SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. STALL WAS INITIATED FROM A TRIM SPD OF 1.3 VSI AT APPROX FL400. RECOVERY WAS INITIATED WITH MAX THRUST AT PUSHERS ACTIVATION AT AN APPROX ALT OF FL397. AT FL390 IT BECAME APPARENT THE ACFT WOULD NOT ACCELERATE TO PERMIT LEVEL FLT AT FL370. THE CTLR WAS IMMEDIATELY ADVISED OF THE SIT. HE STATED WE HAD TO MAINTAIN FL370 TO WHICH WE RESPONDED WE WERE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN LEVEL FLT. HE AGAIN SAID WE COULD NOT DSND BELOW FL370. WE RPTED AGAIN WE WERE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN LEVEL FLT. BY THIS POINT WE WERE DSNDING BELOW FL370 AT A RATE OF APPROX 100-200 FPM. THE CTLR THEN GAVE US A 90 DEG TURN (WHICH FURTHER MADE THE ALT ISSUE MORE DIFFICULT). LATER HE TOLD US WE COULD MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT ALT (THEN FL355) WHEN ALLOWED US TO ACCELERATE AND RESUME NORMAL FLT. THE CTLR INDICATED THE REASON WE COULDN'T DSND BECAUSE OF OTHER TFC. AFTER ALL WAS DONE AND WE HAD RETURNED TO OUR BLOCK, HE ADVISED US ON RADIO HE WOULD PROCESS AS A 'POSSIBLE PLT DEV.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.