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At jfk, ny, a helicopter (SK76B) taxies to a runway where the tower instructs the aircraft to reverse course and move back to where there is more room. As the helicopter reverses course, it has a runway incursion.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 374921 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | S-76/S-76 Mark II |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 6590 flight time type : 3400 |
| ASRS Report | 374921 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 31R at taxiway V, tower told us to contact ground, who then instructed us to taxi to air carrier ramp straight ahead. I called air carrier ramp control as we began to taxi towards their ramp. They advised us no room on their ramp and to park elsewhere. At this moment we were taxiing up on the hold short lines (clearing the runway environment) and I called ground back and advised them we needed to repos to the GA terminal. Ground told us to 'do a 180 degree turn' and call the tower. The copilot immediately did a 180 degree turn and taxied forward slightly to straighten the nosewheel. Our 180 degree turn was done on the hold lines so we stopped on the runway side of them. Then we contacted the tower for repos and the controller told us we didn't hold short of the runway. The crew perception was they were going to repos us quickly, as we did not get a hold short instruction when they said to 'do a 180 degree turn' and we were still on the runway side of the lines being told to go back to tower. From now on, we will always clear the runway environment first, then comply with ATC instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AT JFK, NY, A HELI (SK76B) TAXIES TO A RWY WHERE THE TWR INSTRUCTS THE ACFT TO REVERSE COURSE AND MOVE BACK TO WHERE THERE IS MORE ROOM. AS THE HELI REVERSES COURSE, IT HAS A RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 31R AT TXWY V, TWR TOLD US TO CONTACT GND, WHO THEN INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI TO ACR RAMP STRAIGHT AHEAD. I CALLED ACR RAMP CTL AS WE BEGAN TO TAXI TOWARDS THEIR RAMP. THEY ADVISED US NO ROOM ON THEIR RAMP AND TO PARK ELSEWHERE. AT THIS MOMENT WE WERE TAXIING UP ON THE HOLD SHORT LINES (CLRING THE RWY ENVIRONMENT) AND I CALLED GND BACK AND ADVISED THEM WE NEEDED TO REPOS TO THE GA TERMINAL. GND TOLD US TO 'DO A 180 DEG TURN' AND CALL THE TWR. THE COPLT IMMEDIATELY DID A 180 DEG TURN AND TAXIED FORWARD SLIGHTLY TO STRAIGHTEN THE NOSEWHEEL. OUR 180 DEG TURN WAS DONE ON THE HOLD LINES SO WE STOPPED ON THE RWY SIDE OF THEM. THEN WE CONTACTED THE TWR FOR REPOS AND THE CTLR TOLD US WE DIDN'T HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY. THE CREW PERCEPTION WAS THEY WERE GOING TO REPOS US QUICKLY, AS WE DID NOT GET A HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTION WHEN THEY SAID TO 'DO A 180 DEG TURN' AND WE WERE STILL ON THE RWY SIDE OF THE LINES BEING TOLD TO GO BACK TO TWR. FROM NOW ON, WE WILL ALWAYS CLR THE RWY ENVIRONMENT FIRST, THEN COMPLY WITH ATC INSTRUCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.