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Attributes | |
ACN | 375020 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 375020 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ATC clearance 'climb to 6000 ft MSL, left turn 220 degrees to intercept col 350 degree radial.' as PNF, I diverted attention to FMC to set up course intercept for PF. He was flying manually. I had set 6000 ft in altitude window and then began to set up course intercept. For some unknown reason, I had to repeat the setup and while attempting second time, PF queried '6000 ft?' I looked up and confirmed '6000 ft' and noticed we were leveling at 7000 ft MSL. PF began immediate correction to 6000 ft and stated that the command bars indicated climb until he finally queried '6000 ft?' as we approached 7000 ft MSL. We have no explanation why command bars commanded climb. He also stated, autothrottles did not retard. His correction back to 6000 ft was immediate. Upon reaching 6000 ft, departure cleared us to higher (I think 12000 ft) and we began climb. Passing 6400 ft ATC requested our altitude and we responded 6400 ft climbing to 12000 ft. ATC said nothing further, nor did we. Mistakes: 1) PNF diverted attention to FMC too long at one time. 2) PF didn't monitor altimeter as well as command bars. If altitude warning and autothrottles malfunctioned, it never happened again for entire flight (no explanation). We wonder if same would have occurred with autoplt flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG FLC CLBED ABOVE THEIR CLRED ALT. THE FLC SUSPECTS A MALFUNCTION IN THE AUTOFLT GUIDANCE SYS, BUT COULD NOT VERIFY THIS. THE SYS OPERATED PERFECTLY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT.
Narrative: ATC CLRNC 'CLB TO 6000 FT MSL, L TURN 220 DEGS TO INTERCEPT COL 350 DEG RADIAL.' AS PNF, I DIVERTED ATTN TO FMC TO SET UP COURSE INTERCEPT FOR PF. HE WAS FLYING MANUALLY. I HAD SET 6000 FT IN ALT WINDOW AND THEN BEGAN TO SET UP COURSE INTERCEPT. FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, I HAD TO REPEAT THE SETUP AND WHILE ATTEMPTING SECOND TIME, PF QUERIED '6000 FT?' I LOOKED UP AND CONFIRMED '6000 FT' AND NOTICED WE WERE LEVELING AT 7000 FT MSL. PF BEGAN IMMEDIATE CORRECTION TO 6000 FT AND STATED THAT THE COMMAND BARS INDICATED CLB UNTIL HE FINALLY QUERIED '6000 FT?' AS WE APCHED 7000 FT MSL. WE HAVE NO EXPLANATION WHY COMMAND BARS COMMANDED CLB. HE ALSO STATED, AUTOTHROTTLES DID NOT RETARD. HIS CORRECTION BACK TO 6000 FT WAS IMMEDIATE. UPON REACHING 6000 FT, DEP CLRED US TO HIGHER (I THINK 12000 FT) AND WE BEGAN CLB. PASSING 6400 FT ATC REQUESTED OUR ALT AND WE RESPONDED 6400 FT CLBING TO 12000 FT. ATC SAID NOTHING FURTHER, NOR DID WE. MISTAKES: 1) PNF DIVERTED ATTN TO FMC TOO LONG AT ONE TIME. 2) PF DIDN'T MONITOR ALTIMETER AS WELL AS COMMAND BARS. IF ALT WARNING AND AUTOTHROTTLES MALFUNCTIONED, IT NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN FOR ENTIRE FLT (NO EXPLANATION). WE WONDER IF SAME WOULD HAVE OCCURRED WITH AUTOPLT FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.