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Attributes | |
ACN | 376259 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 376259 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While flying the new departure out of newark (arthur kill 1 departure) we were asked by the controller if we were joining the sbj 100 degree radial. Our reply was 'no' and said we were on the 250 degree heading that the SID called for. At that point he cleared us direct to the sbj VOR. Looking closer at the SID, hidden in the text is the fact that 3 of the departure fixes, but not all, were to join the sbj 100 degree radial. There was no traffic conflict. The first officer and I had briefed the departure as part of our preflight and we both missed this very important part of the SID. I believe that the FAA and chart maker need to concentrate on more standardization in the presentation of these complicated sids and stars.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A B737-400 HAS PROB FLYING THE ARTHUR KILL 1 DEP FROM EWR. THERE IS CONFUSION OF JOINING THE 100 DEG RADIAL AFTER DEP. HDG DEV RESULTS.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING THE NEW DEP OUT OF NEWARK (ARTHUR KILL 1 DEP) WE WERE ASKED BY THE CTLR IF WE WERE JOINING THE SBJ 100 DEG RADIAL. OUR REPLY WAS 'NO' AND SAID WE WERE ON THE 250 DEG HDG THAT THE SID CALLED FOR. AT THAT POINT HE CLRED US DIRECT TO THE SBJ VOR. LOOKING CLOSER AT THE SID, HIDDEN IN THE TEXT IS THE FACT THAT 3 OF THE DEP FIXES, BUT NOT ALL, WERE TO JOIN THE SBJ 100 DEG RADIAL. THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT. THE FO AND I HAD BRIEFED THE DEP AS PART OF OUR PREFLT AND WE BOTH MISSED THIS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE SID. I BELIEVE THAT THE FAA AND CHART MAKER NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON MORE STANDARDIZATION IN THE PRESENTATION OF THESE COMPLICATED SIDS AND STARS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.