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Attributes | |
ACN | 377627 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 5300 |
ASRS Report | 377627 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was operating as a contract pilot for FBO X from jul/xb/97 until (aug/xd/97). During this time the operation was/is acting as a scenic tour operated from ZZZ to tour scenic X to scenic Y. The operator did not have a urinalysis program in effect. The operator, when questioned about no ELT said that it had been removed for a battery and sent to FBO Y. I told him that he needed to have it in his logbook and placarded in cockpit as being removed and for a period of no longer than 90 days (safety issue). The operator was operating without a radio as well (safety issue). The a&P mechanics (at the time), were not given the logbook to review and neither was I. (Work completed was done on a self-sticking label and sent to the operator. The mechanic does not work on the helicopter any more after that occurrence or for safety reasons mentioned will not work with the operator again. Neither will I. I feel that the operator could do more to ensure passenger safety. This is in light of the remote and rugged terrain the operation was conducted over. And, although a radio and an ELT are not required for this operation, an operator who is concerned for passenger safety should in my opinion have these 2 devices available and in working order. This is known as the 'reasonable man' approach. I believe that safety is an issue here. I also believe that the owner -- who is not a commercial pilot acted as a pilot for revenue activities with passenger on board. I have no way to verify the lack of commercial ticket. This is based on word of mouth.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF AN SMA SIGHT-SEEING HELI NOTICED DURING PREFLT THAT HE HAD BEEN OPERATING THE ACFT WITHOUT COMPLETE ACFT LOG RECORDS, IE, THE ELT REMOVAL FOR BATTERY REPLACEMENT.
Narrative: I WAS OPERATING AS A CONTRACT PLT FOR FBO X FROM JUL/XB/97 UNTIL (AUG/XD/97). DURING THIS TIME THE OP WAS/IS ACTING AS A SCENIC TOUR OPERATED FROM ZZZ TO TOUR SCENIC X TO SCENIC Y. THE OPERATOR DID NOT HAVE A URINALYSIS PROGRAM IN EFFECT. THE OPERATOR, WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT NO ELT SAID THAT IT HAD BEEN REMOVED FOR A BATTERY AND SENT TO FBO Y. I TOLD HIM THAT HE NEEDED TO HAVE IT IN HIS LOGBOOK AND PLACARDED IN COCKPIT AS BEING REMOVED AND FOR A PERIOD OF NO LONGER THAN 90 DAYS (SAFETY ISSUE). THE OPERATOR WAS OPERATING WITHOUT A RADIO AS WELL (SAFETY ISSUE). THE A&P MECHS (AT THE TIME), WERE NOT GIVEN THE LOGBOOK TO REVIEW AND NEITHER WAS I. (WORK COMPLETED WAS DONE ON A SELF-STICKING LABEL AND SENT TO THE OPERATOR. THE MECH DOES NOT WORK ON THE HELI ANY MORE AFTER THAT OCCURRENCE OR FOR SAFETY REASONS MENTIONED WILL NOT WORK WITH THE OPERATOR AGAIN. NEITHER WILL I. I FEEL THAT THE OPERATOR COULD DO MORE TO ENSURE PAX SAFETY. THIS IS IN LIGHT OF THE REMOTE AND RUGGED TERRAIN THE OP WAS CONDUCTED OVER. AND, ALTHOUGH A RADIO AND AN ELT ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS OP, AN OPERATOR WHO IS CONCERNED FOR PAX SAFETY SHOULD IN MY OPINION HAVE THESE 2 DEVICES AVAILABLE AND IN WORKING ORDER. THIS IS KNOWN AS THE 'REASONABLE MAN' APCH. I BELIEVE THAT SAFETY IS AN ISSUE HERE. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE OWNER -- WHO IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PLT ACTED AS A PLT FOR REVENUE ACTIVITIES WITH PAX ON BOARD. I HAVE NO WAY TO VERIFY THE LACK OF COMMERCIAL TICKET. THIS IS BASED ON WORD OF MOUTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.