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Attributes | |
ACN | 378510 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zma |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx artcc : zny artcc : zma |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : g446 enroute airway : zma |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 378510 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Approaching jains intersection, we saw thunderstorm WX at hainy intersection ahead and past. We asked ZJX for a 50 mi deviation to the right of course. Center came back and approved a 30 mi right deviation. As we flew on, we saw that the 30 mi deviation was insufficient to avoid severe WX, so asked new york comrdo on the HF for a 60 mi deviation right of course. We were told to stand by. A few mins later, we asked again, and were still told to stand by. At this time we could not wait any longer, as we were getting too close to hazardous WX, and told new york that we were using our emergency authority/authorized to deviation 60 mi right of course for thunderstorm WX. We were having trouble with heavy static on the HF, and we also broadcast on 130.55 that we were using our emergency authority/authorized to deviation around the hazardous WX. As we went further south, new york then approved our 60 mi deviation. As we continued, we had to deviation an additional 10-20 mi right of course as more large thunderstorms continued to build and block our path. At this point, communication on the HF was impossible due to heavy static so we attempted and made successful contact with ZMA on VHF. They picked us up and then cleared us direct to broom intersection which kept us in the clear. No conflicts occurred and flight proceeded normal from that point. This is an all too frequent problem along this route.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757-200 FLC DIVERSION OFF G446 TO SJU. TSTMS ENRTE. RADIO COM PROBS ON HF COMMON RADIO. PIC DECLARES AN EMER FOR RTE DEV PURPOSES. FINALLY GETS INTO ZMA AIRSPACE AND GETS VECTORED CLR OF TSTMS. RPTR CITES THIS AS A COMMON PROB.
Narrative: APCHING JAINS INTXN, WE SAW TSTM WX AT HAINY INTXN AHEAD AND PAST. WE ASKED ZJX FOR A 50 MI DEV TO THE R OF COURSE. CTR CAME BACK AND APPROVED A 30 MI R DEV. AS WE FLEW ON, WE SAW THAT THE 30 MI DEV WAS INSUFFICIENT TO AVOID SEVERE WX, SO ASKED NEW YORK COMRDO ON THE HF FOR A 60 MI DEV R OF COURSE. WE WERE TOLD TO STAND BY. A FEW MINS LATER, WE ASKED AGAIN, AND WERE STILL TOLD TO STAND BY. AT THIS TIME WE COULD NOT WAIT ANY LONGER, AS WE WERE GETTING TOO CLOSE TO HAZARDOUS WX, AND TOLD NEW YORK THAT WE WERE USING OUR EMER AUTH TO DEV 60 MI R OF COURSE FOR TSTM WX. WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH HVY STATIC ON THE HF, AND WE ALSO BROADCAST ON 130.55 THAT WE WERE USING OUR EMER AUTH TO DEV AROUND THE HAZARDOUS WX. AS WE WENT FURTHER S, NEW YORK THEN APPROVED OUR 60 MI DEV. AS WE CONTINUED, WE HAD TO DEV AN ADDITIONAL 10-20 MI R OF COURSE AS MORE LARGE TSTMS CONTINUED TO BUILD AND BLOCK OUR PATH. AT THIS POINT, COM ON THE HF WAS IMPOSSIBLE DUE TO HVY STATIC SO WE ATTEMPTED AND MADE SUCCESSFUL CONTACT WITH ZMA ON VHF. THEY PICKED US UP AND THEN CLRED US DIRECT TO BROOM INTXN WHICH KEPT US IN THE CLR. NO CONFLICTS OCCURRED AND FLT PROCEEDED NORMAL FROM THAT POINT. THIS IS AN ALL TOO FREQUENT PROB ALONG THIS RTE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.