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Attributes | |
ACN | 378824 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : man |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : egpx tower : man |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 378824 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18500 flight time type : 3460 |
ASRS Report | 378825 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Soon after takeoff we heard a thud which we perceived to be a bird strike. When we passed through approximately 5000 ft we hit some turbulence which I perceived to be wake turbulence. Soon after the turbulence at 5000 ft a flight attendant called up to see if everything was ok. At this time we learned that the thud on takeoff sounded like an engine failure to them. During this whole time all engine indications were normal with 1 exception. After the turbulence at +/-5000 ft, I noticed #3 egt was inoperative. Analog and digital both read zero. The captain and the first officer had already noticed this. ATC then called and reported metal had fallen off an aircraft. At a safe altitude, I went back and visually inspected both wings and #1 and #3 engines. I found nothing wrong with the aircraft. With the exception of the loss of all engine #3 egt readings, the engines all were normal and fuel flows from manchester to ewr were all normal. The captain exercised excellent CRM/CCC and encouraged crew input. He also had me call company dispatch and maintenance and advise them of the things written about previously. Supplemental information from acn 378825: about 30 mins after takeoff we were advised by scottish control that a piece of metal was found near the airport. After we landed we found a section of the #3 engine aft outboard cowling was missing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10-30 LOSES AFT OUTBOARD COWLING ON #3 ENG AFTER TKOF AND DURING CLBOUT FROM MANCHESTER, ENGLAND. ONLY COCKPIT INDICATION WAS THE LACK OF ANY #3 EGT INDICATION. ACFT HAD PRODUCED A NOISE DURING TKOF AND A BUFFET DURING CLB. FLT CONTINUED TO THEIR UNITED STATES DEST ARPT.
Narrative: SOON AFTER TKOF WE HEARD A THUD WHICH WE PERCEIVED TO BE A BIRD STRIKE. WHEN WE PASSED THROUGH APPROX 5000 FT WE HIT SOME TURB WHICH I PERCEIVED TO BE WAKE TURB. SOON AFTER THE TURB AT 5000 FT A FLT ATTENDANT CALLED UP TO SEE IF EVERYTHING WAS OK. AT THIS TIME WE LEARNED THAT THE THUD ON TKOF SOUNDED LIKE AN ENG FAILURE TO THEM. DURING THIS WHOLE TIME ALL ENG INDICATIONS WERE NORMAL WITH 1 EXCEPTION. AFTER THE TURB AT +/-5000 FT, I NOTICED #3 EGT WAS INOP. ANALOG AND DIGITAL BOTH READ ZERO. THE CAPT AND THE FO HAD ALREADY NOTICED THIS. ATC THEN CALLED AND RPTED METAL HAD FALLEN OFF AN ACFT. AT A SAFE ALT, I WENT BACK AND VISUALLY INSPECTED BOTH WINGS AND #1 AND #3 ENGS. I FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE ACFT. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LOSS OF ALL ENG #3 EGT READINGS, THE ENGS ALL WERE NORMAL AND FUEL FLOWS FROM MANCHESTER TO EWR WERE ALL NORMAL. THE CAPT EXERCISED EXCELLENT CRM/CCC AND ENCOURAGED CREW INPUT. HE ALSO HAD ME CALL COMPANY DISPATCH AND MAINT AND ADVISE THEM OF THE THINGS WRITTEN ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 378825: ABOUT 30 MINS AFTER TKOF WE WERE ADVISED BY SCOTTISH CTL THAT A PIECE OF METAL WAS FOUND NEAR THE ARPT. AFTER WE LANDED WE FOUND A SECTION OF THE #3 ENG AFT OUTBOARD COWLING WAS MISSING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.