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Attributes | |
ACN | 379247 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pwk |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pwk |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 36 flight time total : 275 flight time type : 69 |
ASRS Report | 379247 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The problem arose when the C172 aircraft Y behind and above me did not see and avoid. I was flying a C172 aircraft X and was cleared to land behind a C172 crossing the numbers of runway 16 at pwk (aircraft Z). Aircraft Y was to follow me (aircraft X). At 1000 ft MSL I recall seeing the VASI, red over white. The tower called me and asked my altitude. I advised 1000 ft. I was then told to make an immediate left 360 degree turn. As I initiated my turn to the left I saw the bottom and right side of aircraft Y. Aircraft Y was turning to the left as well. Aircraft Y nearly descended on top of me prior to the left turn. On sep/xa/97 I met with the tower chief at pwk. We listened to the tower tape and confirmed that the controller saw aircraft Y descending on aircraft X and took the appropriate steps. The pilot in aircraft Y failed to see and avoid (aircraft Y had a student pilot and an instructor). I called the instructor of aircraft Y about 50 mins after the incident. He said he thought he was #2. He stated he did not see aircraft X until he looked out of his window to confirm that the gear was down. (Even though he was in a fixed gear C172). The tower tape reveals aircraft M was cleared for a touch-and-go on runway 16. Aircraft Z was behind aircraft M, aircraft X behind aircraft Z, and aircraft Y was to be behind aircraft X. I had the beacon and landing light on.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 ACFT ON APCH HAD ANOTHER C172 DSNDING ON TOP OF HIM. TWR CTLR INTERVENED WITH AN EVASIVE HDG FOR RPTR AND OTHER ACFT ALSO TURNED IN RESPONSE TO THE CLRNC. APPARENTLY, THE FOLLOWING ACFT DIDN'T KNOW HIS SEQUENCE AND BECAME CONFUSED WITH RPTR ACFT INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: THE PROB AROSE WHEN THE C172 ACFT Y BEHIND AND ABOVE ME DID NOT SEE AND AVOID. I WAS FLYING A C172 ACFT X AND WAS CLRED TO LAND BEHIND A C172 XING THE NUMBERS OF RWY 16 AT PWK (ACFT Z). ACFT Y WAS TO FOLLOW ME (ACFT X). AT 1000 FT MSL I RECALL SEEING THE VASI, RED OVER WHITE. THE TWR CALLED ME AND ASKED MY ALT. I ADVISED 1000 FT. I WAS THEN TOLD TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE L 360 DEG TURN. AS I INITIATED MY TURN TO THE L I SAW THE BOTTOM AND R SIDE OF ACFT Y. ACFT Y WAS TURNING TO THE L AS WELL. ACFT Y NEARLY DSNDED ON TOP OF ME PRIOR TO THE L TURN. ON SEP/XA/97 I MET WITH THE TWR CHIEF AT PWK. WE LISTENED TO THE TWR TAPE AND CONFIRMED THAT THE CTLR SAW ACFT Y DSNDING ON ACFT X AND TOOK THE APPROPRIATE STEPS. THE PLT IN ACFT Y FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID (ACFT Y HAD A STUDENT PLT AND AN INSTRUCTOR). I CALLED THE INSTRUCTOR OF ACFT Y ABOUT 50 MINS AFTER THE INCIDENT. HE SAID HE THOUGHT HE WAS #2. HE STATED HE DID NOT SEE ACFT X UNTIL HE LOOKED OUT OF HIS WINDOW TO CONFIRM THAT THE GEAR WAS DOWN. (EVEN THOUGH HE WAS IN A FIXED GEAR C172). THE TWR TAPE REVEALS ACFT M WAS CLRED FOR A TOUCH-AND-GO ON RWY 16. ACFT Z WAS BEHIND ACFT M, ACFT X BEHIND ACFT Z, AND ACFT Y WAS TO BE BEHIND ACFT X. I HAD THE BEACON AND LNDG LIGHT ON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.