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Attributes | |
ACN | 380070 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sat |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sat |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 380070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 53 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 379715 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the PF and leveling off at 12000 ft by marcs intersection when approach called us and told us to turn to a 290 degree heading after reaching a fix. I did not understand from the transmission which fix. The PNF (captain) read back that we were to turn to a 290 degree heading upon reaching marcs intersection. The controller did not respond to this readback. I turned the aircraft to a 290 degree heading at marcs. A few moments later, the controller said something to the effect that we had prematurely turned to 290 degrees. He gave us new instructions and we proceeded with an uneventful arrival and landing. After the flight, the crew discussed what had happened. One conclusion was that approach had told us to turn to 290 degree heading at criss intersection and not marcs intersection as we had read back. Supplemental information from acn 379715: the controller then gave us turn to a heading of 290 degrees (he meant or said criss). It sounded like marcs to us. We read back 290 degrees at marcs and at that time we were at marcs so we turned to 290 degrees and started our descent. 1 min later, the controller came back and asked us if we were still on heading. We said no, we were flying 290 degrees. Controller then gave us instruction to head straight to criss, but then changed that to head straight to the VOR and at 2 DME turn to 290 degree heading. So we read that back and nothing was said about any conflict or problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 DSNDING INTO SAT, TX, TURNS PREMATURELY TOWARD THE W AND TRACON REMINDS THEM TO KEEP FOLLOWING THE ARR.
Narrative: I WAS THE PF AND LEVELING OFF AT 12000 FT BY MARCS INTXN WHEN APCH CALLED US AND TOLD US TO TURN TO A 290 DEG HDG AFTER REACHING A FIX. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND FROM THE XMISSION WHICH FIX. THE PNF (CAPT) READ BACK THAT WE WERE TO TURN TO A 290 DEG HDG UPON REACHING MARCS INTXN. THE CTLR DID NOT RESPOND TO THIS READBACK. I TURNED THE ACFT TO A 290 DEG HDG AT MARCS. A FEW MOMENTS LATER, THE CTLR SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT WE HAD PREMATURELY TURNED TO 290 DEGS. HE GAVE US NEW INSTRUCTIONS AND WE PROCEEDED WITH AN UNEVENTFUL ARR AND LNDG. AFTER THE FLT, THE CREW DISCUSSED WHAT HAD HAPPENED. ONE CONCLUSION WAS THAT APCH HAD TOLD US TO TURN TO 290 DEG HDG AT CRISS INTXN AND NOT MARCS INTXN AS WE HAD READ BACK. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 379715: THE CTLR THEN GAVE US TURN TO A HDG OF 290 DEGS (HE MEANT OR SAID CRISS). IT SOUNDED LIKE MARCS TO US. WE READ BACK 290 DEGS AT MARCS AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE AT MARCS SO WE TURNED TO 290 DEGS AND STARTED OUR DSCNT. 1 MIN LATER, THE CTLR CAME BACK AND ASKED US IF WE WERE STILL ON HDG. WE SAID NO, WE WERE FLYING 290 DEGS. CTLR THEN GAVE US INSTRUCTION TO HEAD STRAIGHT TO CRISS, BUT THEN CHANGED THAT TO HEAD STRAIGHT TO THE VOR AND AT 2 DME TURN TO 290 DEG HDG. SO WE READ THAT BACK AND NOTHING WAS SAID ABOUT ANY CONFLICT OR PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.